Production Lazer3D LZ7 - Quiet Gaming Cube PC Case

[AleksandarK]

I really wish there were some solid test results with this case and an i7-7700k so I could commit to purchasing, I'm on the fence between this and a lian-li pc-q33

With appropriate CPU cooler, this case would suit you better as it more compact, has more modern look and it is rare. There is Noctua NH L12 or Big Shuriken 2 to chose from.

RESULTS
A brief overview of the temperature and noise results for the heavy load test with 100% system fan power can be seen below:

For more in depth results please see the table below:

 

[dcaparros]

I really wish there were some solid test results with this case and an i7-7700k so I could commit to purchasing, I'm on the fence between this and a lian-li pc-q33

I think that for this case you would need to use an HDplex and a small profile tower cooler to use a 91W TDP processor like 7700K or use a Noctua NH-L12 and maintain you room temperature at 21C ~ 22ºC ramping up your fan speed

 

[K888D]

I really wish there were some solid test results with this case and an i7-7700k so I could commit to purchasing, I'm on the fence between this and a lian-li pc-q33

Unfortunately all my data has been gathered with an i7-7700, the LZ7 can handle this CPU fairly comfortably when using an SFX PSU, there is some thermal headroom left, but I think moving up to the i7-7700K will be pushing the case to its limit if you want it stay reasonably quiet whilst under heavy load.

I'm in the middle of doing some more temperature testing with the Noctua NH-U9S (tower cooler) and the Corsair H60 (120mm AIO), both of these coolers can only be used with a DC-DC type power supply and will require an external brick. The NH-U9S is giving some exceptional results beating even the Corsair H60 AIO in both noise and temps.

8 Thread Prime95 testing the U9S is getting as low as 58C with 72% fan speed, and the H60 is getting 59C at 73% fan speed.

 

[K888D]

Some updated results to tie you over:

The above table focuses on CPU temps, I will be writing a more detailed report soon that includes system and GPU temps and boost speeds. The new XL-Vent Top Panel helps reduce GPU and System temps but not necessarily CPU temps. I still need to test a down-draft style tower cooler which would probably get the most benefit from the XL-Vent top panel.

 

[dcaparros]

Some updated results to tie you over:

The above table focuses on CPU temps, I will be writing a more detailed report soon that includes system and GPU temps and boost speeds. The new XL-Vent Top Panel helps reduce GPU and System temps but not necessarily CPU temps. I still need to test a down-draft style tower cooler which would probably get the most benefit from the XL-Vent top panel.

One question, are measuring your ambient temperature? If so can you please provide it?

 

[wesbl]

Some updated results to tie you over:

The above table focuses on CPU temps, I will be writing a more detailed report soon that includes system and GPU temps and boost speeds. The new XL-Vent Top Panel helps reduce GPU and System temps but not necessarily CPU temps. I still need to test a down-draft style tower cooler which would probably get the most benefit from the XL-Vent top panel.

There isn't so much difference between Big Shuriken 2 and Noctuas. I think the heat generated from HDPLEX is too much...

 

[Colbyrene]

Some updated results to tie you over:

The above table focuses on CPU temps, I will be writing a more detailed report soon that includes system and GPU temps and boost speeds. The new XL-Vent Top Panel helps reduce GPU and System temps but not necessarily CPU temps. I still need to test a down-draft style tower cooler which would probably get the most benefit from the XL-Vent top panel.

Thanks bunch, I would run the out the box psu but I can't really wait for the new rear panel :/

If it's helps I'm not even looking to overclock, I just prefer the higher bass clock of the k vs the standard 7700, the pc I'm building will be mostly used for music production. Also, my room temp is usually at most 20C

 

[K888D]

One question, are measuring your ambient temperature? If so can you please provide it?

The Ambient temperature for all tests was 20C.

There isn't so much difference between Big Shuriken 2 and Noctuas. I think the heat generated from HDPLEX is too much...

I wouldn't have thought the heat being generated by the HDPLEX will be having a significant affect on the CPU temperatures.

For me personally these results are a testament to how good the Scythe Big Shuriken 2 actually is at cooling. It gets 5C lower temps than the NH-L12 under the same conditions and is within 2C of the Corsair H60 120mm AIO that's exhausting directly out the case.

The result for the NH-U9S (which is renowned for being a very good performer) was 54C running Prime95 with 2 threads + Unigine Valley, with the same setup running only Prime95 with 8 Threads the CPU temperature was just 4C higher at 58C.

If you take a step back and look and look at the bigger picture, this is a 7 litre chassis keeping a desktop grade i7 CPU under 60C during full 8 thread Prime95 stress testing.

 

[robbee]

The problem I am finding is that because they are real solid wood the sheets are basically strips of wood about 100mm - 120mm wide glued together to form a larger sheet, the glue is incredibly strong so the wood will break before the join, however the glue is much denser than the wood and so the laser struggles to cut through it unless you wack up the power and lower the speed considerably, which then causes other issues such as laser flashback and increased smoke staining. I'm experimenting in between trying to get everything else done, so unfortunately its taking some time to get right, but I hope to have at least 1 wood material option available in the next 2 - 3 months.

You could try veneered MDF, I imagine it gives less issues with laser power. As an added bonus, it's quite cheap too.

Either way, I love the wood looks! Having the grain horizontal does look better than vertical, imo. A rule of thumb I mostly use with wood, is to have the grain parallel with the longest side.

 

[dcaparros]

The Ambient temperature for all tests was 20C.

I think that the most important part is measuring the delta T

If you have 20°C ambient and measured 54 ~ 64º you have 34 ~ 44 deltaT, this is excellent and below is a image of a respected site gamer nexus:

He is using a Intel i7-6700K @ 4.4GHz (TDP 91W)

As you can see the deltaT of most comercial cases varies beteween 47 ~74, and if you live in a hot place with 30ºC ambient you can reach thermal throttle with hotter cases...

Further information on deltaT

 

[Colbyrene]

Anyone?

I'm not gaming, only using this computer for ableton live and light photoshop work, would I be able to slide by with the 7700k vs the 7700 usuing one of the low profile cpus?

 

[K888D]

You could try veneered MDF, I imagine it gives less issues with laser power. As an added bonus, it's quite cheap too.

Ideally I would like to be using solid wood, but if perhaps I can offer veneer MDF as a lower price alternative. I have some 3mm veneer MDF for testing, I'll post the results when I get round to cutting it.

Anyone?

I'm not gaming, only using this computer for ableton live and light photoshop work, would I be able to slide by with the 7700k vs the 7700 usuing one of the low profile cpus?

I think you will be fine with the 7700K if you use either the NH-L12 cooler or Scythe Big Shuriken 2 coolers.

 

[K888D]

Grey Panels available soon:

 

[dcaparros]

Grey Panels available soon:

it look gorgeous, do you have any pictures of a black panel and white corner columns? also, if possible gray panels and white columns

 

[MarcParis]

Considering dc-dc psu, do you think a nofan cr-80eh will fit inside lz7?

 

[Geran Brown]

I really like the grey panels. Now just waiting for the HDPlex panel before making my two orders

 

[K888D]

it look gorgeous, do you have any pictures of a black panel and white corner columns? also, if possible gray panels and white columns

These panels are the first grey ones hot off the cutter, hopefully I will get some time over the weekend to build up some more colour combinations and take some photos. If you want to look at what black panels with white corners look like you can get an idea with the current configurator:

http://www.lazer3d.com/lz7-configurator/configure/935/

Considering dc-dc psu, do you think a nofan cr-80eh will fit inside lz7?

Being 113mm tall it should fit height wise no problem, but I'm not sure about its diameter at 155mm wide. The HDPLEX 400W HiFi DC-ATX edges over the motherboard by about 20mm when installed in the front of the LZ7, so I think it will interfere. But I don't see why this wouldn't work if you were using a "Pico" style DC-DC PSU.

I really like the grey panels. Now just waiting for the HDPlex panel before making my two orders

Would be great if you could document your builds in the Build Log section!

 

[dcaparros]

Would be great if you could document your builds in the Build Log section!

yeah, that would be great, I'm still saving to purchase this case and I keep watching the 3 videos review that we got about his case in loop and also the older build posts, but I would like to see new builds to fix my obsession

 

[MarcParis]

These panels are the first grey ones hot off the cutter, hopefully I will get some time over the weekend to build up some more colour combinations and take some photos. If you want to look at what black panels with white corners look like you can get an idea with the current configurator:

http://www.lazer3d.com/lz7-configurator/configure/935/



Being 113mm tall it should fit height wise no problem, but I'm not sure about its diameter at 155mm wide. The HDPLEX 400W HiFi DC-ATX edges over the motherboard by about 20mm when installed in the front of the LZ7, so I think it will interfere. But I don't see why this wouldn't work if you were using a "Pico" style DC-DC PSU.



Would be great if you could document your builds in the Build Log section!

Thanks @K888D

 

[Geran Brown]

Would be great if you could document your builds in the Build Log section!

That is my plan