Hi I'd like to buy myself a new PC for my birthday on the 17th of this month , I'm really impressed by the Hades Canyon with the 8809G chip , I'd like to use it as my daily driver (would there be any major issues with that?) . I mostly surf the web write emails and play games like prison architect / Minecraft and hearts of iron 4 , though I'd like to play some AAA games like fallout 4 battlefields etc . My OS of choice is KDE NEON (I find linux easier to use) .For my SSD and ram I'd use a 500 gb 970 evo with 2 x 8 gb sticks of ram .Am I good to go and is the NUC good for my use case ?
CPU Hades Canyon as primary PC
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Thanks mate I'm new around here so sorry for any mistakes I may make also synthethics show that the vega m gh is on par with a 1060 max q whilst in gaming it's around a 1050 ti in games , could drivers iron this out?Also how's Intel's QC/build quality?
That's story of AMD gpu life : more raw power than Nvidia but less optimised than Nvidia in general.
A lot of hope has come with new API (DirectX 12 and Vulkan), but too few studios followed that path.
However, don't be lured by benchmarks (fps, etc). What is important is user experience...and definitely hades canyon is matching GTX 1060 gaming experience....especially if you are using free sync screen (where g sync monitor are just too pricey)
Thanks man , I'm coming from a ps 4 so I want something to beat a ps 4 , if worst comes to worst down the road (a year from now for example ) I can always 1 UP my NUC with an external Nvidia gpu right ?
Well Hades Canyon is around performance from a PS4 pro (but far smaller and noisier..
)...so it could handle most games at 1080p 60+fps with pretty good quality settings.
)...so it could handle most games at 1080p 60+fps with pretty good quality settings.Thanks for all the help and also nice cat.Well Hades Canyon is around performance from a PS4 pro (but far smaller and noisier..
Ok Thanks also what cat is that , I know this is an SFF forum but this cat looks really nice and I can't recognize the breed.
Just as an alternate opinion, although the hades canyon seems quite good (and even supports an EGPU for more future proofing) for about the same price, you could get a full built laptop with a gtx 1060 and a quad core intel. If it was my money, today, I would probably go the laptop route, and maybe spend the extra money I would have on ram/ssd on a docking station for a desktop experience.
As for linux driver support, I'm afraid I don't have much experience with that.
As for linux driver support, I'm afraid I don't have much experience with that.
What you mention is true.
Now hades canyon is different on usage than laptop.
Personnally I was even a reviewer of portable gaming laptop for french press, but after several years, I was too frustated not to be able to use best monitor, keyboard, mouse...and all those "gaming" laptop are not that easy to transport (big external psu, external mouse, mouse pad, notebook cooler, lack of upgradibility)....Thus I swicthed for gaming SFF where I can setup best suited components and peripheral devices...
For me, worth laptops are ultrabook like..
Now my headaches could start again as egpu is becoming more and more a robust gaming solution...I prefer a NUC beacause I just trust Intel more as a company than someone like lenovo / dell , which might contain some useless/possibly malicious even software Also with a laptop I'd get some OEM parts which are likely inferior to something like a wd black/970 evo (Marc pls help me choose ) but that's just my opinion. Another major deal breaker for me is that a thin laptop like a razer blade has it's gpu and cpu located directly under the keyboard which can cause discomfort during gaming , also the NUC can be easily placed under my desk / somewhere else which can help with noise , Linux support is a mixed bag too , whilst some OEMs support it , some don't which can be an issue , however a full 1060 will almost always beat the NUC , unless the drivers are optimised(it can beat a 1060 max q under ideal conditions ). At the end of the day though for 90% of the people a laptop will be vastly superior , but for me the NUC wins hands down ,I like grand strategy games which heavily tax the cpu (the NUCs cpu is vastly superior to a 7700HQ and maybe an 8750H on single core perfomance ) and grand strategy generally feels better on a large screen.
Lol Samsung 970 evo versus last SSD WD/sandisk black....joker...both are great definitely..I own both brand SSD and I can't complain about any of them.
My only advice is to have only one SSD brand on one machine to avoid several software (samsung magician or sandisk/WD dashboard)
Thanks I'll just flip a coin I guess also 2 more questions
1.Is intel optane worth it with an nvme ?
2.Since the NUCs just started shipping out (April for preorders I think ) could the drivers get better and give us better perfomance?
Forget Optane 905p or hybrid version for now...it's only worth for data center (for pure optane 905p)..
Nuc GPU driver are based on AMD driver...so you will receive similar upgrade as base AMD driver, but I don't on which frequency...
My portable system is actually a NUC, (one of the i5 kaby lake model). And I too like to choose my own portable display, keyboard, mouse, etc.
I even got a MAXOAK battery pack to make it portable/battery powered with DC/DC connection.
SO it can be a lot of fun, but for overall performance/value it isn't quite there, but it seems like you have other things you value more (cooling quality, build quality etc.) so can't fault you for that.
I even got a MAXOAK battery pack to make it portable/battery powered with DC/DC connection.
SO it can be a lot of fun, but for overall performance/value it isn't quite there, but it seems like you have other things you value more (cooling quality, build quality etc.) so can't fault you for that.
I have only gone into the bios once, and I thought it was fine? I can go back in and look for certain options if you want.
