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I'm gonna try and get my Gigabyte rep to send me their new X399 XTreme and a TR2 CPU (*crosses fingers*).
I'm just wierd at the thought that only MSI and Gigabyte are making TR2 motherboards. Their both epic, but still. (MSI X399 MEG and Gigabyte X399 Xtreme)
early reviews suggest better performance for 3D rendering and related workloads on the 2990WX than video exporting and the related large-RAM workloads o_o the 2950X makes more sense for those dabbling in the most threads for the buck for the first time, so maybe that's why there's not many X399+ VRM upgraded boards o_o
woke up to Quadro RTX news ._. Can't wait to see the consumer card version
Same situation here. Looks like NVIDIA really made a beast of a card! We just have to wait 6 more days to find out about GeForce cards...
Predictions:
Expensive AAA games using raytracing engines will suck, relatively speaking, due to all the time and money spent by including raytracing. But they will (eventually) look amazing on bleeding edge systems. We just won't know they suck unless we overspend on our PCs.
Indies (and Nintendo) will still make great fun games without raytracing engines, because the majority of gamers will not have raytracing-capable systems and they will spend the money elsewhere.
NVidia will milk raytracing eye candy hardware for every dollar they can and laugh all the way to the bank.
I will buy a GPU for raytracing to the same extent I bought TVs for 3D - i.e., not at all.
Expensive AAA games using raytracing engines will suck, relatively speaking, due to all the time and money spent by including raytracing. But they will (eventually) look amazing on bleeding edge systems. We just won't know they suck unless we overspend on our PCs.
Indies (and Nintendo) will still make great fun games without raytracing engines, because the majority of gamers will not have raytracing-capable systems and they will spend the money elsewhere.
NVidia will milk raytracing eye candy hardware for every dollar they can and laugh all the way to the bank.
I will buy a GPU for raytracing to the same extent I bought TVs for 3D - i.e., not at all.
To me, it isn't a question of whether ray tracing is a good idea or not (categorically, it is). It's just a question of whether it's a good idea right now.
I remember implementing a basic ray tracer as a Computer Science undergrad student well over a decade ago and being blown away at how much better the end result looked than the techniques we were using then (or even now). At least in terms of visual fidelity, it is a fundamentally and significantly better way of rendering than anything else we've been using up to this point, in much the same way that the transistor was a fundamentally better way of computing than the vacuum tube that preceded it. The only problem was that it took several orders of magnitude too long to be usable in real-time for things like AAA video games, which is why you only ever hear about ray tracing being used in offline renderers (e.g. Pixar using it in recent films).
Ever since that class, there's been no doubt in my mind that at some point—once the costs were down, the technology was in people's hands, and the content production pipelines had time to adapt—every single major 3D game engine would be (re-)built using real, honest-to-goodness ray tracing.
So is that time now? I have no idea. I haven't looked into the current state of affairs enough to know whether Nvidia is cutting corners to sell us "ray tracing" before the hardware is actually ready. But whenever real ray tracing does come, I expect that its arrival will look something like what we see now: it'll start on the high end of the market and won't have wide support or adoption, after a few years it'll be supported on every card and will have mixed adoption, and then a few years after that we'll be on the other side of a one-way transition, after which point we won't look back, just like no one is switching back to using vacuum tubes for general purpose computing.
I remember implementing a basic ray tracer as a Computer Science undergrad student well over a decade ago and being blown away at how much better the end result looked than the techniques we were using then (or even now). At least in terms of visual fidelity, it is a fundamentally and significantly better way of rendering than anything else we've been using up to this point, in much the same way that the transistor was a fundamentally better way of computing than the vacuum tube that preceded it. The only problem was that it took several orders of magnitude too long to be usable in real-time for things like AAA video games, which is why you only ever hear about ray tracing being used in offline renderers (e.g. Pixar using it in recent films).
Ever since that class, there's been no doubt in my mind that at some point—once the costs were down, the technology was in people's hands, and the content production pipelines had time to adapt—every single major 3D game engine would be (re-)built using real, honest-to-goodness ray tracing.
So is that time now? I have no idea. I haven't looked into the current state of affairs enough to know whether Nvidia is cutting corners to sell us "ray tracing" before the hardware is actually ready. But whenever real ray tracing does come, I expect that its arrival will look something like what we see now: it'll start on the high end of the market and won't have wide support or adoption, after a few years it'll be supported on every card and will have mixed adoption, and then a few years after that we'll be on the other side of a one-way transition, after which point we won't look back, just like no one is switching back to using vacuum tubes for general purpose computing.
I'm going to mount my Hades Canyon machine on the back of my monitor (Eizo FS2434). Unfortunately everything above this line that I've marked with Sharpie obstructs the bottom of the VESA bracket that the PC slides into. So, it shall be cut.
EDIT: It is done.
Look at this little 6" HDMI cable, man. It's so cute.
EDIT: It is done.
Look at this little 6" HDMI cable, man. It's so cute.
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das kühlermeister is looking into SFF o_o
https://www.reddit.com/r/pcmasterra...pinion_plus_a_giveaway/e4dp7rw/?context=10000
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Another thought on GPU cooling - why do they keep making ridiculously long cards with those whiny tiny fans? Slightly taller 2,5 slot cooler can keep the chip and pcb just as cool, or cooler, while the card doesn't have to be more than 15cm in length.
I found this modded GPU on sale, so its cooling has been made more tiny, in its own "special" way...
Only $180 bucks... what a deal!!
There's this guy asking all custom cases thread if they have front panel audio and usb connectors.
Like, that's his only requirement.
Like, that's his only requirement.
Vanta black strikes again!
https://www.theguardian.com/artandd...to-art-installation-of-8ft-hole-painted-black
https://www.theguardian.com/artandd...to-art-installation-of-8ft-hole-painted-black
didn't they release a v2 lately?
edit : last year! https://phys.org/news/2017-04-version-vantablack-coating-blacker.html
just checked back. here's their response:
https://www.reddit.com/r/pcmasterra...r_wants_your_opinion_plus_a_giveaway/e4eh7f4/
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huh. that thought DID cross their minds o_o too bad it's an easter egg now ,_, (but at least still doable!)
Has anyone looked at AsRock H310 mATX boards, especially H310CM-HDV, H310CM-DVS and H310M-DGS?
They're borderline infuriating. Decent, affordable and at 18,8x19cm they could easily be fitted in an SFF case BUT the pci-e socket, for some reason, isn't the first expansion slot, making it impossible to install a GPU.
They're borderline infuriating. Decent, affordable and at 18,8x19cm they could easily be fitted in an SFF case BUT the pci-e socket, for some reason, isn't the first expansion slot, making it impossible to install a GPU.
