Dr Arboreal's Case Hoarding Therapy Group

Discussion in 'Off Topic' started by Arboreal, Apr 12, 2019.

  1. rfarmer

    rfarmer King of Cable Management
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    What you said about the Ncase is so true. I remember when I bought it I was amazed at it's size but I was comparing it to the Ghost S1 I just picked up and it seems incredibly large. I am currently using my Ncase as a HTPC/Plex server with 4 x 3.5 HDDs installed and it is a wonderful case for this setup, like you say it is hard to find another case you can pack so much into the available space.

    I have also been able to sell most of my previous cases, I usually do a hardware upgrade at the same time I do case upgrade and sell the complete setup. Cases I still have are:

    Coolermaster Elite 110, my first itx case and still being used as a home pc for web browsing and video watching.
    Ncase M1, which I am using for my HTPC/Plex server.
    MI-6 which I just pulled my gaming build out of and will probably put up for sale.
    Louqe Ghost S1 which I just transferred my build into but I have also ordered a Nouvolo Steck because I wanted to compare the 2. I have a feeling I will keep main build in the Ghost but I would like to hold onto the Steck because I am thinking about an AMD only build depending on how their upcoming components look.

    Some of the itx cases I have gotten rid of, several out of shame. ;)
    Rosewill U2 Legacy (Jonsbo clone) sold as a complete build, still one of the most difficult itx cases I have built in and really taught me the importance of a "planned build"
    Rosewill Neutron, a horrendously big itx case that was nearly as large as most mid towers. I think I bought this because the U2 was such a PITA to build in.
    Phanteks Evolv itx, nearly as horrendously big as the Neutron. After the Evolv I bought my Ncase because I decided if I was going to have an itx case it needed to be SFF and was looking for something with better build quality.
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  2. Windfall

    Windfall SFF Guru

    See, because @confusis has brought these issues to light, they can be more easily solved!
  3. Curiosity

    Curiosity Case addict
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    #23 Curiosity, Apr 14, 2019
    Last edited: Apr 14, 2019
    I have (had?) A problem where I want to keep going smaller and quieter, which don't really pair up too well.
    I also keep all my old coolers because I love heatsinks, and bought a d15 because volumetrically it's the same size as my customod 3.24l.

    I usual sell my old cases to afford my new ones, but at one point I had an ncase V2, s4 mini, and dancase at the same time.

    Once I move from the customod I'll keep ahold of it for sure.

    I've got an alpenfohn Peter is, cryorig m9i and c7, nhd15, Alienware sofaa quakecone wrapped lid, some noiseblocker 92mm fans, and I think a couple other things in forgetting.

    I'd love to upgrade my CPU/ mobo/ ram but I'm not really sure how to sell adelidded 3570k and ballistic tactical tracer ram without heatspreaders.

    @Thehack you said you needed to sell your k39? I was thinking if buying one..
  4. Nanook

    Nanook King of Cable Management

    Hi my name is Nanook, and I hoard cases...
    I started with a Lian Li full tower back in the early 2000s, with a QX9650, and 2x 8800GTS in SLI. Eventually I upgraded to a GTX285, and later the GTX580. All of these things I still have in storage. In 2016, I decided to upgrade my whole system, and that’s when my problem started. My first SFF case was the NCase M1 v5. The M1 was so versatile in how it can be configured, that I kept trying (buying) different components to fit in the M1. Later I started looking at different cases that does something slightly different (better) than the M1, and somehow it snowballed:

    1. NCase M1 v5, silver with ODD slot
    2. Cougar QBX Kaze - thinking that this case has better airflow than the M1 because it houses a 80mm fan in the front. It didn’t. It was toastier.
    3. Fractal Design Nano S - wanted to go massive air cooling with the Cryorig H5 140mm fan tower. Somehow this spacious case led me to go down the rabbit hole of custom loop watercooling.
    4. Moved the custom loop into the M1, end up cutting out the M1 chassis floor... which led me to purchase a second M1. This time black without ODD slot.
    5. Dancase A4-SFX v1 - HTPC build
    6. HTPC later switched to a Streacom F1C, powered by a G-uniq 300w PSU.
    7. After this, things got really out of control... I got a Phanteks Evolv Shift to do a custom loop in. I had grand plans of modding the case to improve airflow and to house more radiators... instead I ruined a few WC components with bad opaque white coolant, shorted a SX600 PSU with my amateur mistakes, etc. dark times.
    8. Thermaltake Core G3 - full custom loop. Actually one of my favorite builds. Love how slim this case is
    9. Fractal Design Meshify - sold. Planned to do an even more ambitious water cooling build, but came back to the SFF world.
    10. Skyreach 4 Mini - which led to me getting into all kinds of low profile coolers and HDPlex, G-uniq 500w, FlexATX, etc.
    11. Lone L4 - bought used for a portable workstation. Later switched to a...
    12. Dancase A4-SFX v2 - for a portable 6-core / Quadro P4000 workstation
    13. Cerberus X - never built in
    14. Cerberus - great case
    15. CirclePro - shoehorned a FE graphics card in this, tried G-uniq and FlexATX to accommodate the FE gpu.
    16. Louqe Ghost S1 - 2 full sets of top hats
    17. Sliger SM550 - the case fan only configuration really interested me
    18. Silverstone FT03 - excellent cooling, but too massive
    19. Metallic Gear - current build focused around the excellent NH-U12A cooler.
    20. Sentry 2 - indiegogo peak. Hopefully by Dec2019
    I think that’s it for now. I probably have about 20+ coolers, and 10+ SFX / nanoATX power supplies.
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  5. rfarmer

    rfarmer King of Cable Management
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    #25 rfarmer, Apr 14, 2019
    Last edited: Apr 14, 2019
    Thanks for the list @Nanook, your problem appears to be more extensive than I feared. :p
    Actually your list of cases is larger than I expected, I would love to see pics of the Thermaltake Core G3.
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  6. Arboreal

    Arboreal Master of Cramming
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    @confusis. John, I'm honoured that you've featured my clinic on the front page, I didn't anticipate that there would be so many patients with such serious problems.

    I cannot assist you in that area, it is outside my brief I'm afraid. My therapeutic training is not that extensive yet.
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  7. Duality92

    Duality92 Airflow Optimizer
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    Oh wow I'm not alone, having been doing case reviews for a good part of 2016, 2017, 2018, I've had to let go a lot. They simply take up too much space in my workshop, but I had a 16' wide shelf that couldn't hold all the cases I had.

    Now, currently, I own the following

    Coolermaster Q300L (currently my server)
    Antec DA-601 (currently my TR 2950X rig)
    MonsterLabo The First (will be 9900K/1070)
    Case Labs SM5 matte white https://imageshack.com/a/rdul/1
    Dimastech EasyXL in yellow https://imageshack.com/a/NW7o/1
    Custom 1515 aluminium extrusion case done by Spotwoods https://imageshack.com/a/fxMJ/1
    NZXT H700 matte black
    Thermaltake View 37 https://imageshack.com/a/hn1o/1
    Silverstone RM21-308
    Totally redone for a dual ITX system FrozenQ Apex mATX
    InWin 805 (modded to fit the 301 inside)
    InWin 301 (modded to house physically inside the 805)
    HighspeedPC Test bench
    Point of sales ITX case, sub 5L with integrated 15.6" monitor and huge stand.

    Here's the list of those I've owned that I can remember of find references too.

    Anidees AI Crystal White
    Anidees AI Crystal Lite
    Anidees AI Crystal Cube White Prism
    Antec 900
    Antec 1200
    Antec 302
    Antec ISK110
    Antec ISK600
    Antec DF500 RGB
    Antec LanBoy (second generation full aluminium, pre-"air" model)
    Azza Photios 250
    Azza Taurus 5000
    bequiet! 600
    bequiet! 900 Pro
    Bitfenix Ghost
    Bitfenix Prodigy M
    Bitfenix Enso Mesh
    Bitfenix Shogun
    Case Labs BH8
    Corsair 750D Air Flow^
    Corsair Air 240
    Enermax Ostrog ADV
    Fractal Design Arc Mini R2
    Fractal Design Define R4
    Fractal Design Node 202
    Fractal Design 804
    Fractal Design Define C Mini
    InWin 303
    InWin 509
    InWin Chopin
    Jonsbo VR2
    NZXT S340 Elite
    Silverstone RL06
    Silverstone KL07
    Silverstone PM01
    Silverstone LD01
    Silverstone RVZ01-E
    Thermaltake Core P3
    Custom 3D printed "Verticality"
    Custom Wood Test Bench
    Custom Wood dowel case
    Custom 14L ITX plastic mesh case

    This doesn't take into account the 5-6 pre-built PC cases I've had, like Compaq, HP, etc. I've also probably forgot quite a few.
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  8. Arboreal

    Arboreal Master of Cramming
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    I'm seeing a lot of unloved and discarded SG05/SG06/SG13 cases on peoples lists. :( The SG05 was my first entry into SFF with an odd industrial ITX board in it.
    How the mighty vanguards of cramming have fallen with the advance of our art.

    I would like to so a front PSU conversion with a top down cooler in an SG06 some time, when I claim mine back from my daughter.

    The Neutron sounds terrible, as the Evolv ITX gives me anxiety... I have said that mine's "in the attic" well, it's actually in a specially created containment field to stop the Anti-SFF effects leaking into the house!

    Welcome all, a flood of patents, I hope to bring you comfort and healing for your pains.

    It looks like @Duality92 and @Nanook are the most strongly affected so far, I have much work to do...

    Dr A.
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  9. Aux

    Aux SFF Lingo Aficionado

    "Starting with Arboreal’s list of mostly Silverstone products, other forum members have started listing what they have sitting about, mostly SFF, but with a few larger enclosures hiding in the crowd. The broad spectrum of cases in the possession of the community is mindblowing – with some really collectible cases in the collections of some"

    Cases are collectible now?????
  10. Duality92

    Duality92 Airflow Optimizer
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    Anything is collectible.

    For example, I know a few guys collection Case Labs cases. One guy in perticular has over 50 of them. (500-1500 per case, imagine the storage room needed lol
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  11. Nanook

    Nanook King of Cable Management

    Heres my G3 build, dry-fitting a 360mm radiator:

    Here’s one of the completed albums... Yup, guilty of unicorn vomit RGB phase...
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  12. rokabeka

    rokabeka network packet manipulator

    S4 Mini #083
    S4 Mini #315
    Silverstone SG05
    Lian Li PC-Q07B
    Realan E-i3
    Realan E-i7
    TT Core P3
    2x DeepCool Matrexx 55 (servers)
    Cougar Solution2

    huhhh, feels much better now :D
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  13. mrp0p1nfr3sh

    mrp0p1nfr3sh Trash Compacter

    im about to spend another 200 on metalfish MATX and Mini-itx cases and i have a few squirreld away.
  14. enricko7

    enricko7 Average Stuffer

    Hi, my name's Enricko7 and I am a case hoarder.

    When I first built my PC, I had little to no idea what I was doing. SSD's were expensive, Game of Thrones was popular, and I thought I would eventually turn my first computer into a server. Rosewill had/has a case called the Throne, and it is a bit of a travesty as far as space efficiency is concerned.

    I got a bit of an upgrade/update bug a couple of years ago and moved my build into a Corsair 750D and upgraded a couple of things. It wasn't much of an improvement in the space efficiency arena, but it got me looking and searching for different things.

    The Dan-A4 and NCase attracted me to the SFF scene. I thought the designs were cool, but still not quite what I wanted. I bought an ATX Case-Labs SM8 motherboard tray hoping to design a more space efficient case around it, but I never made any progress with it (we'll see if that ever comes back...).

    Eventually, I 'slacker-backer'ed a Louqe Ghost and built a true SFF Computer. I still wasn't happy with it, especially considering some hardware compatibility issues. I was able to sell this case, and I ended up getting a Sliger mATX Cerberus. It's a little large for the hardware, but it stays nice and cool no matter what I'm doing. I am convinced that this will be my desktop case until the mATX form factor disappears.

    Here and there I've bought a couple of other cases. I bought an Apple Mac Pro from one of my local University's public auctions. I've loved that design for a long time, and knew that people have modded them to use standard parts. I got a Laserhive mATX kit so I could use it as an HTPC and music server. I still hope to use it for something, but I need to do a little bit more modding to get a standard PSU secured in it. Instead of using the Mac Pro for an HTPC, I got a Silverstone GD08. It's a very efficient design, but challenging for cable management, especially when using two optical drives.

    I don't yet know what will happen to the giant cases that I don't use. I would be more than happy to sell them, but shipping is expensive and most people buy new for their builds because of that. And that brings me here. For support in my too-many-case-owning problem.

    TL;DR - I have a:
    Rosewill Throne (ATX)
    Corsair 750D (ATX)
    CaseLabs SM8 Motherboard tray (ATX)
    Apple Mac Pro with LaserHive motherboard kit (mATX)
    Silverstone GD08 (ATX)
    Sliger Cerberus (mATX)
  15. Stevo_

    Stevo_ Cable-Tie Ninja

    Case hoarder here as well, in the midst of re-arranging to smaller cases all around but in order of declining volume

    Node304 - first boutique SFF case, currently unused, hideously big for SFF ~19L and looks reminiscent of a mini hotel fridge
    NFC S4 classic - currently unused will be selling
    Lone L2 - currently unused will be selling
    Lone L1 - currently used for J5005 based fanless that will move to the Morex 557
    Realan K3 - 3.3L last purchase will likely house a 2400G based build
    MX500 - 2.7L currently unused but will likely house the P8Z77I 3770K that was in the S4
    Morex 557 2.3L - currently has the P8Z77I 3770K installed but there's not enough room for ventilation, more of a limit experiment for the case, may try the 2400G in there and put the P8Z77I 3770K in the K3, but likely J5005 will go in.
  16. IgnoranceIsTheEnemy

    IgnoranceIsTheEnemy Case Bender
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    #36 IgnoranceIsTheEnemy, Apr 15, 2019
    Last edited: Apr 15, 2019
    Silverstone FTZ01-E
    Velka M
    Inwin Chopin
    Silverstone SUGO SG05 X2
    HP Compaq 8200 Elite
    HP EliteDesk 800 G1 SFF
    Streacom FC5 OD
    Coolermaster Elite 342
    Fractal Design Arc (talk about sticking out like a sore thumb; earmarked to carry some old tape drives)

    The way i see it, how else am i going to store all my components. Put them away in boxes like some kind of savage? But seriously, most of these are going to new homes. Soon. I promise. I need the room for more new cases.

    As soon as Sliger puts the SV590 up for preorder, i am having a spring clean. Getting rid of the SG05 is going to hurt.

    Equally bad, is my SFF PSU problem.

    Multiple Flex-ATX psu's, including the latest, an Enhance ENP-7660B
    Numerous Silverstone sff psu, ranging from old 450w bronze units to platinum rated monsters
    Streacom Zeroflex 240W psu
    Streacom 120w nano and various other Pico PSU


    Oh and as we are now doing coolers as well, due to my indecisiveness and varying clearances of the cases i own, i now have one of every low profile CPU cooler Noctua make, both AMD specific versions and older Intel variants for some of them.
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  17. Damascus

    Damascus Master of Cramming
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    @confusis I'm seeing all my fellow hoarders and relapsing. What's the best 1u chassis for an itx mobo + fury nano? Already rocking a flex psu to boot
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  18. fleetfeather

    fleetfeather Average Stuffer

    Happy to provide some inspiration :p

    I don't have quite the collection that some of y'all have, but I can slightly expland on those cases listed in my For Sale thread... In my possession (with some about to be sold):

    Define Nano S
    Project mATX #003
    Ncase v5
    Ghost S1 w/ tophats and grills
    JP-Artisan Advent
    Lone L3
    Inwin Choppin
    Minibox m350

    Once I've sold off a few of these and my 1080ti, I'm planning on buying a Lone L5 to use as my daily, moving my system over, and then finally selling the rest :)
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  19. rokabeka

    rokabeka network packet manipulator

    I am sure Dr Arboreal will tell you that this kind of planning is absolutely part of the symptom :D we have all been there...
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  20. TheHig

    TheHig King of Cable Management
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    Loving this thread all. :cool:
    Like many here I very much enjoy trying different enclosures and with so much great work being done by creators here on the forum its easy to go down the rabbit hole.

    Currently in use:

    Cerberus X (2 of these) My daily driver and oldest Son's new rig
    Riotoro CR280- Family PC ( my 6yo calls it his and really at this point it is. Minecraft is his game of choice)
    Xigmatek Eris- Daughters PC

    On the shelf:
    Custom Mod Mini OG 3.2L - really like this case and with the pico 192w brick and 160xt makes a nice pc with a 1050ti and even soon 1650. However, I also learned that I really do not like external power supples.-- Ordered a 200w kit from @Thehack and may use it in the gpu side for an APU build.

    Inwin BQ656- possible APU box if I decide to use a slim Blu-ray for the HTPC and use the JHack Psu kit here instead of the Custom Mod.

    EVGA Hadron Air- just so fun to cram a sfx psu in there. Works great with Founders 9 and 10 series Nvidia Gpus this way if a bit loud under load. Built like a tank. Sadly collecting dust.

    S4M (sold-- bittersweet but it was too nice to sit around and had to fund that WC loop right?!)

    Sliger SM550 to house the family PC or Daughters build? Was going to get this for my Son's but he chose the CerbX and frankly it turned out great -- Thanks @loader963 !

    CCD MI6 because I really like it.-- If anyone is selling theirs PM me. :thumb:
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