AMD X570 ITX Motherboards

dKenGuru

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No, it’s not the same audio, actually. For what it’s worth, the Impact board’s audio features a high-end Sabre DAC and op-amp-based headphone amplification that the Strix distinctly lacks.
Lol, what? It has almost same audio quality.
 

Hifihedgehog

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Lol, what? It has almost same audio quality.
There's no denying that for 99% of users, the difference is functionally indiscernible. But it is true that Sabre DACs are among the very best the market has to offer which is why you see them used quite frequently in $1,000+ standalone desktop DACs. Check out AudioScienceReview. Objectively, Sabre DACs, when properly implemented, offer top-of-the-line sound quality that no other DAC can begin to approach.
 
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EndEffeKt

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While we are already talking audio here...I am building a watercooled NCase and therefore dtx conflicts with my radiators. Is it possible to drive my 600 ohm Beyerdynamic headphones with the Strix-board? I could not find conclusive info on that. If not I might need a DAC.
 

Hifihedgehog

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You'd actually need an amplifier, not a DAC, but yes, you need a bit of voltage to fully drive a 600-ohm Beyerdynamic set of headphones. The JDS Labs Atom would be your best option at $99 outperforming the previous giant killer, the Objective2 or O2, which needs no introduction.
 
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dKenGuru

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There's no denying that for 99% of users, the difference is functionally indiscernible. But it is true that Sabre DACs are among the very best the market has to offer which is why you see them used quite frequently in $1,000+ standalone desktop DACs. Check out AudioScienceReview. Objectively, Sabre DACs, when properly implemented, offer top-of-the-line sound quality that no other DAC can begin to approach.
I know about DAC. But using chip it is not is same is offer good realization of it. In 99% times no matter what DAC used in MB, it has very small advantage over Realtek 1220. Just marketing and no more - Look, we have addition DAC, it Sabre, pay for it.
 

dKenGuru

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And what? You don't understand difference between just install the chip and good engeeniring realization.
No notable difference Realtek or Sabre on MB.

BTW I use Khadas Tone Board with JDS Atom.
 
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Hifihedgehog

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You don't understand difference [sic] between just install [sic] the chip and good engeeniring [sic] realization [sic].
I stated as much above, when I said "when properly implemented." ;) So I absolutely agree: implementation is everything. You can have a $100 chip in an exotic, boutique topology and it sound and measure like utter trash. Or you can have a $1 chip in a properly engineered design and it sound and measure wonderfully. I think we are on the same page, but we are just saying the same thing in different ways. :)


Is having a 92MM AIO in the M1 a common choice? This is the first time I've seen it.
I am still very much a newbie when it comes to the NCase M1 as this will be my very first build with it. However, based on my layman understanding from browsing online, I would say no. Much of the M1's appeal stems from its largely unrestricted compatibility with ATX-oriented AIO's and CPU air coolers. If someone wants to use a 92-mm AIO, they usually drop down to the DAN Cases A4-SFX. One possibility is this user was upgrading from the DAN and they opted to carry over the cooler they were using previously.
 
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First time I've watched a Paul's Hardware video in a while, but this is about as thorough a hardware overview of the Crosshair VIII Impact that one could want. Very happy he took the time to pull off the VRM/chipset cooler.
 
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bluestofblue

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Nice board. With no ability to gain substantially via overclocking I think the board is overkill for $400. I wish they would charge $300 for the board and another $80 if you want the daughter board too.

Still mad they didn't put a Gen 3.2 port on the Strix board also. That is bs.
 

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Nice board. With no ability to gain substantially via overclocking I think the board is overkill for $400. I wish they would charge $300 for the board and another $80 if you want the daughter board too.

Still mad they didn't put a Gen 3.2 port on the Strix board also. That is bs.
A $300 ITX board in 2019 with no m.2 slots would sell a grand total of zero units worldwide. The VRM should be good (if still a bit overkill) for the 3950X with PBO and suchlike. It also looks like a killer board in terms of features, I/O and so on (I particularly like that it has a thermal sensor header), and the layout is excellent. I'll likely be getting one down the line (as long as I get confirmation it will fit in my NZXT H200) for use with something like a 3900X, but then I won't be paying for it with my own money. It technically won't be mine for a couple of years either, but I'll be the only one with access to it, so that doesn't matter :p Still, if I had to pay for it myself I could never afford a board like this.
 
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Hifihedgehog

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The ASUS ROG Strix X570-I Gaming was just listed on AVADirect Custom Computers in the last 24 hours (see link below). However, while it was listed for sale in their online configurator, it is not yet available (its availability is listed as "unknown").


As far as price is concerned, we are now able to deduce the US pricing with greater certainty will be $250-$260. AVADirect's configurator is pegging it as worth $39 more than the GIGABYTE X570 I AORUS PRO WIFI which, per Google, retails for $219.99. That would mean the ASUS ROG Strix X570-I Gaming would cost $258.99 if we were using their online configurator as a standard of measure. However, taking into account the art of upselling and the unnecessary excess amount they are typically tack on above suggested retail for the privilege of upgrading to more premium equipment, I would not be surprised in the least if it retailed for no more than $249.99.
 
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MrFlamey

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When I checked just now, it cost $127 to upgrade to the Strix 😱 ... 🤣

Here in Japan the Gigabyte board is nearly $300 on Amazon, and the ASRock board is around $370 😥
God only knows what ridiculous price we'll be asked to pay when Asus release their boards here. I was really excited to be building an ITX machine, but there is certainly a fairly large ITX tax.

Anyone buying a non-x570 board for their Ryzen 3000 build? The MSI b450 Gaming is literally half the price of the cheapest x570 ITX board, has no chipset fan and has had months of battle testing, so I'm tempted to go for that instead.
 
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When I checked just now, it cost $127 to upgrade to the Strix 😱 ... 🤣

Here in Japan the Gigabyte board is nearly $300 on Amazon, and the ASRock board is around $370 😥
God only knows what ridiculous price we'll be asked to pay when Asus release their boards here. I was really excited to be building an ITX machine, but there is certainly a fairly large ITX tax.

Anyone buying a non-x570 board for their Ryzen 3000 build? The MSI b450 Gaming is literally half the price of the cheapest x570 ITX board, has no chipset fan and has had months of battle testing, so I'm tempted to go for that instead.
I am using the MSI with a 3600x and works great.
 

EndEffeKt

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When I checked just now, it cost $127 to upgrade to the Strix 😱 ... 🤣

Here in Japan the Gigabyte board is nearly $300 on Amazon, and the ASRock board is around $370 😥
God only knows what ridiculous price we'll be asked to pay when Asus release their boards here. I was really excited to be building an ITX machine, but there is certainly a fairly large ITX tax.

Anyone buying a non-x570 board for their Ryzen 3000 build? The MSI b450 Gaming is literally half the price of the cheapest x570 ITX board, has no chipset fan and has had months of battle testing, so I'm tempted to go for that instead.
I bought a used and updated b450-i strix a couple of days ago for 130 €. After realizing that the board has the same fan-headers, temp sensor connects and audio codec of the x570 (features I want for my water cooling setup) I just ditched x570 for now.