My 2400Gis ordered and shipped................Just get the BIOS to 4.4 now.............
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Here in the states it looks like the Egg has them at msrp +20 for the early adopter tax. 189 and 129. Amazon right in on launch price at 169 and 99 Prime shipping! Microcenter also at msrp but no sweet 30 dollar off a mobo combo yet.
Just picked up a 2400G from the store with a Gigabyte B350 ITX motherboard.
Only thing I'm not sure about is whether it will boot without BIOS update and whether you can update the BIOS with the 2400G or you need a first gen chip inserted!?
Only thing I'm not sure about is whether it will boot without BIOS update and whether you can update the BIOS with the 2400G or you need a first gen chip inserted!?
I see reports that it doesn't boot. Unless the board supports CPU-less updating, I'd ask the staff to update for you.
anyone else finds the 2200G the more interesting one? 60% of the price for 85% of the performance.
It's aways been that way. During the FM2+ generation, I preferred the A8-7600 vs the A10-78xxk. The question for me is how well do either the 2200G or 2400G OC and perform with a higher RAM OC?
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Very much yes! I think if one's plan is to go with a larger system that can squeeze in a dGPU in the future the 2400G is great since the 8 threads will be nice to have going forward for incremental upgrdes.
However, personally, I feel the 2200G is where its at for fire and forget brickless build with the HDPlex direct plug and 160w internal psu. You can go small and portable . I use Steam in home streaming from my main box all the time if whatever PC I have connected to the TV can't hang with a particular title. The 2200G sounds awesome for a portable fun box, kids pc, HTPC or light gamer daily driver on the cheap.
Went out to grab my wallet from my car @ lunch and newegg/amazon are sold out of 2400G. Hope this wasn't a paper launch.
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I was about to jump the gun on these builds, but saw a video comparing a g4560 + 1030, and the 2400g is a bit behind when it comes to e sports gaming. Don't get me wrong it does play most of the games but for me buying new set of high frequency ram its not worth for the upgrade. I was really excited to cram this to have on the go low key gaming , but if it can run the same specs I have right now theres no reason for me 
I think the salt in the wound on this whole thing is that AMD helped Intel do an APU that crushes the shit out of their offerings. I have absolutely no idea why they didn't make a 95W Raven Ridge part. Boggles my fucking mind.
EDIT: Case in point. If you look at power consumption on the 2200G it is around 45W with a peak of 57W. The 2400 runs at an average of 50W with peaks around 65W.
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/amd-ryzen-5-2400g-zen-vega-cpu-gpu,5467-5.html
Doing a wee bit of napkin math you can come to the conclusion that the power draw per Vega CU is somewhere around 2W. Adding 30W to the TDP budget would hypothetically allow them to add 15 cores to the 11 already on the 2400G for a total of 26. This is two more Vega CUs (8% more) than on the Hades Canyon chip which exceeds the performance of the RX 570 and maybe even the RX 580. What the actual fuck AMD letting Intel cannabalize your entire lower end GPU market and then not taking a piece of the action for yourself.
EDIT: Case in point. If you look at power consumption on the 2200G it is around 45W with a peak of 57W. The 2400 runs at an average of 50W with peaks around 65W.
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/amd-ryzen-5-2400g-zen-vega-cpu-gpu,5467-5.html
Doing a wee bit of napkin math you can come to the conclusion that the power draw per Vega CU is somewhere around 2W. Adding 30W to the TDP budget would hypothetically allow them to add 15 cores to the 11 already on the 2400G for a total of 26. This is two more Vega CUs (8% more) than on the Hades Canyon chip which exceeds the performance of the RX 570 and maybe even the RX 580. What the actual fuck AMD letting Intel cannabalize your entire lower end GPU market and then not taking a piece of the action for yourself.
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Looking at RAM price, I see no point in replacing my i7-4785T (25W with iGPU disabled) and my GT1030. This is still promising for future iterations
What ever happened to the rumored AMD Fenghuang APU with 28 Vega CU?
https://wccftech.com/amd-fenghuang-desktop-apu-with-15ff-28-cu-graphics/
My assumption if this even existed is that it would be an X399 socket CPU as I do not see them being able to fit all of those CUs and HBM2 memory on a die that could fit in AM4 unless the 2GB listed was system memory and not dedicated memory.
An APU with the GPU performance at or slightly over a 1050 ti and a TDP of 95 watts would be perfect in my book. Enough for 1080p 60FPS gaming at mostly high settings.
https://wccftech.com/amd-fenghuang-desktop-apu-with-15ff-28-cu-graphics/
My assumption if this even existed is that it would be an X399 socket CPU as I do not see them being able to fit all of those CUs and HBM2 memory on a die that could fit in AM4 unless the 2GB listed was system memory and not dedicated memory.
An APU with the GPU performance at or slightly over a 1050 ti and a TDP of 95 watts would be perfect in my book. Enough for 1080p 60FPS gaming at mostly high settings.
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I think the salt in the wound on this whole thing is that AMD helped Intel do an APU that crushes the shit out of their offerings. I have absolutely no idea why they didn't make a 95W Raven Ridge part. Boggles my fucking mind.
EDIT: Case in point. If you look at power consumption on the 2200G it is around 45W with a peak of 57W. The 2400 runs at an average of 50W with peaks around 65W.
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/amd-ryzen-5-2400g-zen-vega-cpu-gpu,5467-5.html
Doing a wee bit of napkin math you can come to the conclusion that the power draw per Vega CU is somewhere around 2W. Adding 30W to the TDP budget would hypothetically allow them to add 15 cores to the 11 already on the 2400G for a total of 26. This is two more Vega CUs (8% more) than on the Hades Canyon chip which exceeds the performance of the RX 570 and maybe even the RX 580. What the actual fuck AMD letting Intel cannabalize your entire lower end GPU market and then not taking a piece of the action for yourself.
Yeah seeing what is possible as far as Hades Canyon is concerned has me wishing for a Ryzen/Vega/Hbm2 franken chip too. BUT Hades Canyon isn’t going to be 99-169 bucks. I can’t imagine it being as cheap as a full RyzenG build even with the insanity of DDR4 prices. Different performance tiers. If it is then yeah AMD screwed the pooch getting in bed with Intel.
Definitely not going to pull people off of decent performing low power builds. But building new I see the appeal. I mean used price performance low wattage is a Haswell S cpu,ddr3, chreap board used 750ti/1030 all day.
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