GPU VEGA NANO

[Soul_Est]

I believe the biggest issue is that AMD tried to do too much with VEGA. It is supposed to fulfil three needs at once:

• High-end gaming
• High-end creative
• High-end compute

These needs are much of the time, mutually exclusive. VEGA's compute scores are pretty decent. ROCm needs work to improve OpenCL performance. As for DirectX, OpenGL, and Vulkan? The drivers need quite a bit of tuning get more out of VEGA.

 

[MarcParis]

As far as i understood, vega introduces totally new drivers (start from scrath) as vega architecture the same kind of infinite fabric...it should be very easy to add x more vega each others without using crossfire....however there is a big issue right now : power consumption and hbm price..

For me, vega is far from being on level right now...simple rx vega 56 with its around 10 teraflops theorical power is marching a 5,7 teraflops lol...knowing that my r9 nano was already at 8 teraflops...what a pity.


Fingers crossed for navi...vega is just a transition gpu...and amd knows it..

 

[darksidecookie]

now we know it isn't the one for sff gaming, the miners can have 'em, that way amd gets enough money to properly develop navi

 

[Elerek]

As far as i understood, vega introduces totally new drivers (start from scrath) as vega architecture the same kind of infinite fabric...it should be very easy to add x more vega each others without using crossfire....however there is a big issue right now : power consumption and hbm price..

For me, vega is far from being on level right now...simple rx vega 56 with its around 10 teraflops theorical power is marching a 5,7 teraflops lol...knowing that my r9 nano was already at 8 teraflops...what a pity.


Fingers crossed for navi...vega is just a transition gpu...and amd knows it..

I mean if Navi is Vega with ~double the power efficiency, then it could be pretty good. Just image a Vega 128 with the same 300 watt tdp

 

[MarcParis]

I don't want to imagine, i want actual competitive gpu...

 

[Soul_Est]

Just as with Ryzen, we will have to wait a few months to see how things turn out.

 

[Boil]

I don't want to imagine, i want actual competitive gpu...

Power usage aside, and barring a price hike after initial release, I would say the RX Vega 56 seems quite competitive with the GTX 1070...

 

[MarcParis]

Power usage aside, and barring a price hike after initial release, I would say the RX Vega 56 seems quite competitive with the GTX 1070...

That's the issue...r9 fury x/nano are also competitive with gtx 1070, especially with free sync monitor.

I owned r9 nano and gtx 1070 and both are delivering same gaming experience...that's the problem because that means rx vega 56 is bringing poor progress compared to previous amd gpu...

As a comparison, witness gap between gtx 970 and gtx 1070...

 

[rcodi]

All I'm hoping for from this card is that it runs cooler and as a result quieter with a small bump in performance from the last one.

 

[VisualStim]

still hoping, these will run on Hackintoshes out of the box and decimate Final Cut Pro Render times

 

[MarcParis]

Wait for october/november.. time to have stock

 

[DocH]

The G-Sync equivalent of the screen I have is about $/€ 1300, I'm not going to buy a new screen any time soon. Especially when Nividia could just add FreeSync (or Adaptive Sync) support via a driver, while G-Sync is proprietary to Nvidia.

Hate to say this but nvidia has zero plans adopting Freesync tech i think. The new monitors coming early next year have Nvidia modules the ultrawide gsync 200Hz hdr quantum dot and the 4k 144hz. There are no freesync competitors to these. I think nvidia is driving a margin between the competition in monitors. You already see it now with the Acer x34 the freesync version of it does 75Hz while the gsync does 100.

While this makes sense be cause there probably wasnt a card that could drive that monitor from amd until vega. By increase the new monitors to 1440p and 4k with +144Hz not only are you locked because of gsync you are also stuck because no amd card could touch this forcing you into nvidia again. It is interesting when these monitor release though Volta will be closer to release. Curious to really think of they have something that can push these monitors.

 

[darksidecookie]

ok, i'm getting exciteed about this card again because:

-it will probabely be the only itx card ekwb desides to make a full cover block for. also because it is smaller (less tall than the gigabyte 1070 mini ) so the ekwb terminal will still fit in the case.
-with waterblock it is single slot (*cough* bifurcation *cough*)
-it is significantly faster than my gtx 1070 in blender (if it's performance is on par with the frontier edition or better)
-and because it uses opencl to render i can also use the horsepower of my cpu! (so i didn't buy a xeon for nothing)


this being said, i'll see if the price is worth it.

 

[ondert]

To be honest, Vega is not necessary especially for sff pc world for tdp/performance reasons. However, there would be still much people would like to buy it for another projects.

For example, I have a 15" macbook pro and sff pc, this makes me feel so wasteful. Now, with the arrival of MacOS High Sierra, eGpu support is official. I'm trying to get rid of my pc and set up an Macbook + eGPU configuration. MacOS doesn't work with Nvidia cards in this stage which forces me to buy an AMD card. In this case, since I'm also a fan of sff systems, I don't want to buy a >14 lt eGPU enclosure while my sff pc is already at 11 lt.

Just found that Aorus Gaming Box (about 3 lt) works with AMD gpus but you have to find an ITX gpu since the enclosure is only small enough for those cards. It's so specific but RX Vega Nano would be the top choice for me in this scenario.

Any news about the release date?

 

[drunker]

http://www.overclock.net/t/1636338/vc-prototype-radeon-rx-vega-56-pictured-with-three-fans
has anyone seen this?

 

[Boil]

http://www.overclock.net/t/1636338/vc-prototype-radeon-rx-vega-56-pictured-with-three-fans
has anyone seen this?

Old news from August of this year...

 

[wesbl]

I think AMD has abbandoned the project...

 

[Therandomness]

I think AMD has abbandoned the project...

The original Nano took about half a year to go from mock-up showed to actual sales.

 

[wesbl]

The original Nano took about half a year to go from mock-up showed to actual sales.

But we have seen the card, not a mockup and we don't have any news, I think they have problems with tdp/performance.
I had a Nano, very good cooler.

 

[AleksandarK]

I think AMD has abbandoned the project...

I think that too. The reason being is that they will not sell well. The reason is that VEGA is not suitable for SFF and RTG can not afford to lose VEGA chips, when they can sell them in either 56 or 64 versions.