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S4 Mini w/ Ryzen 1700 and 1080 TI
- Thread starter Reglar
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Thanks, I hate leaving things unfinished.
I was worried about air restrictions in the case. I'll definitely try it though on both CPU and GPU (need to cut off the top corners though for the CPU test).
OK, mini update. Completed test 4 with just the Noctua, no dice, card throttled all the way down to min and was above 84C.
I then tried the Noctua in exhaust and it was worse, throttled to min and hit 90C.
Moving onto test 5 which will be the NZXT fan, it won on CPU let's see how it goes on GPU. For now the test will just be it, I'll then see if adding some 40mm fans help at all.
I then tried the Noctua in exhaust and it was worse, throttled to min and hit 90C.
Moving onto test 5 which will be the NZXT fan, it won on CPU let's see how it goes on GPU. For now the test will just be it, I'll then see if adding some 40mm fans help at all.
Small update, I have now completed testing 13 combinations of fans on the GPU, and now I'm parsing all the data. In addition to the noise and temp measurements that I did on the CPU tests, I'll be including benchmark scores for each, as well as stats on GPU clock speed.
I'll post data as soon as I have it complete.
I'll post data as soon as I have it complete.
First up, some graphs, followed by some comments at the bottom.
Noise level
Noise to performance - synthetic tests
Noise to performance - Metro benchmark
Benchmark (score and median frequency) - Heaven
Benchmark (score and median frequency) - Time Spy
Benchmark (score and median frequency) - Fire Strike Ultra\
You can clearly see a relationship between frequency to score, and a pretty significant relationship at that. You can also see that Noctua by itself is definitely the worse performing fan combination.
Score wise most of the rest of the fan combinations will do the job, so now it comes down to personal preference on noise level. Note in the discussion below I refer to the main fan, but there are usually 2 50mm Scythe fans paired with it.
Looking at the noise to temp graph on synthetics, the Cougar looks VERY attractive, with the Gentle Typhoon (69 CFM model) right behind it. If I then look at the noise to temp graph on Metro benchmark, the Phanteks looks good (I'm ignoring the standalone Noctua given the horrible benchmark scores).
The Gentle Typhoon does better in the benchmarks than the Cougar and the Phanteks, so I'm going to go with the Gentle Typhoon.
Next steps are to now try different thermal paste on the GPU. I have 3 to try out:
- Noctua NT-H1
- IC Diamond
- Themal Grizzley Kyronaut
My prediction is that the Kryonaut will work best, so I am saving that for last.
The testing for the thermal paste will probably start Sunday, although I may take a break Sunday and actually just play some games
** Edited to fix some labels on the graphs
Noise level
Noise to performance - synthetic tests
Noise to performance - Metro benchmark
Benchmark (score and median frequency) - Heaven
Benchmark (score and median frequency) - Time Spy
Benchmark (score and median frequency) - Fire Strike Ultra\
You can clearly see a relationship between frequency to score, and a pretty significant relationship at that. You can also see that Noctua by itself is definitely the worse performing fan combination.
Score wise most of the rest of the fan combinations will do the job, so now it comes down to personal preference on noise level. Note in the discussion below I refer to the main fan, but there are usually 2 50mm Scythe fans paired with it.
Looking at the noise to temp graph on synthetics, the Cougar looks VERY attractive, with the Gentle Typhoon (69 CFM model) right behind it. If I then look at the noise to temp graph on Metro benchmark, the Phanteks looks good (I'm ignoring the standalone Noctua given the horrible benchmark scores).
The Gentle Typhoon does better in the benchmarks than the Cougar and the Phanteks, so I'm going to go with the Gentle Typhoon.
Next steps are to now try different thermal paste on the GPU. I have 3 to try out:
- Noctua NT-H1
- IC Diamond
- Themal Grizzley Kyronaut
My prediction is that the Kryonaut will work best, so I am saving that for last.
The testing for the thermal paste will probably start Sunday, although I may take a break Sunday and actually just play some games
** Edited to fix some labels on the graphs
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OK well I did the GPU TIM testing today to get it out of the way. Bottom line is that the commercial TIMs performed better, but only slightly. I'm not sure there was enough of a change to warrant doing it yourself.
Of the TIM's I'd say the Kryonaut provided the best temps, but only by 2-3 degrees. Certainly no significant boost in scores or median frequency with the change.
Next step is I think I'll replace the CPU TIM, just to get a few degrees improvement. I won't be doing a ton of testing for this, I'll just use the Kryonaut and report the temps.
The final step will be to create the video with all the audio from all the fan testing. That will hopefully get done this week and then I'm done with this build.
Of the TIM's I'd say the Kryonaut provided the best temps, but only by 2-3 degrees. Certainly no significant boost in scores or median frequency with the change.
Next step is I think I'll replace the CPU TIM, just to get a few degrees improvement. I won't be doing a ton of testing for this, I'll just use the Kryonaut and report the temps.
The final step will be to create the video with all the audio from all the fan testing. That will hopefully get done this week and then I'm done with this build.
is this accurate to sum things up?
- 1 gentle typhoon + 2x 50mm scythe
- kyronaut paste
Siba, let me preface this that my choices are a bit subjective. From a performance/noise perspective on the Zotac GTX 1080 TI I found that the Gentle Typhoon (63 CFM variant, there are 3 types for GT) + 2 50mm Scythe fans worked the best and gave me the "gentlest" noise. The thermal compound change didn't really do anything but lower my temps 2-3 degrees. There was no material change to the scores for the tests I did.
The Zotac GTX 1080 TI will NOT fit unless you have the 3d Bezel sold by Josh (NFC systems) specifically for the Zotac 1080/1080 TI.
Here's a picture of the card before I started doing the fan mod. You can see how the card extends through the opening in the chassis.
Some other points from earlier in the thread:
- I'm using a cardboard baffle to create separate chambers for the GPU and the motherboard; that had the most appreciable heat improvement prior to me playing with the fans on both CPU and GPU
- You have to be willing to FLEX the GTX 1080 enough so that the 25mm tall fan will fit on the end; if your card is particularly rigid this could cause an issue for you so please make sure you understand the risk before you try this
How far does the heatsink stick out past the frame? I was trying to find out if milling the existing aluminum bezel would allow for enough clearance to fit it, and if using the non-stock fan setup would allow for everything to fit after milling (in case the stock plastic doesn't fit w/ milling)
Can you take a quick profile pic or vid to show it? Something like this
Also a pic of the finished setup so we can see how the GT63 + 2x 50mm looks
Can you take a quick profile pic or vid to show it? Something like this
Also a pic of the finished setup so we can see how the GT63 + 2x 50mm looks
Siba, I'll get the pics up by the weekend, but there is a good picture of how far it sticks out in the main S4 min thread. Check out this post.
https://smallformfactor.net/forum/threads/nfc-systems-s4-mini.96/page-205#post-66827
https://smallformfactor.net/forum/threads/nfc-systems-s4-mini.96/page-205#post-66827
Heads up everyone, I realized I have a mistake in the name of the 50mm fan, the fan is NOT the Scythe 50mm but the Fractal Design Silent Series R3 50mm. Apologies for mislabeling that fan, it looks similar to the Scythe and I got confused.
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