Is Thin Mini-ITX dead, or just seems it?

[a13antichrist]

I noticed there were no 200-series Intel chipset boards made in the TM-itx format. And so far none announced for the 300s either. So are they just slow, is it worth hoping for one eventually, or is the general consensus that they are dead & gone & won't be coming back? I've already seen a couple of people (here & elsewhere) selling off their TM-itx parts after giving up on a future hope...
I have emailed Asus, but, anyone have any more concrete info?

 

[AleksandarK]

There was no need for 200 series Thin-ITX mobo, as 100 series worked well with kaby lake, but with 300 series, there will be new motherboards incoming for commercial market(if i am correct!).

I have emailed Asus, but, anyone have any more concrete info?

What did ASUS say?

 

[GuilleAcoustic]

The ASRock IMB-1212 uses H310 chipset.

 

[a13antichrist]

There was no need for 200 series Thin-ITX mobo, as 100 series worked well with kaby lake, but with 300 series, there will be new motherboards incoming for commercial market(if i am correct!).

What did ASUS say?

Haven't replied yet, it was only this afternoon. )

 

[a13antichrist]

The ASRock IMB-1212 uses H310 chipset.

Yes, but two NICs and only DP, no HDMI makes me wonder if that one will only be sold to system constructers and not retail. It's also curious since thin-itx has a strict height restriction (obviously) so what are they planning for that PCIe-x16? Would need risers which sorta defeats the purpose of the Thin....

Oh yeah, not to mention the naming doesn't for their retail patterns, and also, when you click that link, it goes to "ASRock Industrial", so, not holding out much hope for that one.

 

[Jello]

As was pointed out to me by @CC Ricers , Gigabyte is planning to release some.

The interesting thing about that Asrock board is it uses a full size X16 PCI-e slot, where as most seem to have a x4 slot.

 

[Jello]

Yes, but two NICs and only DP, no HDMI makes me wonder if that one will only be sold to system constructers and not retail. It's also curious since thin-itx has a strict height restriction (obviously) so what are they planning for that PCIe-x16? Would need risers which sorta defeats the purpose of the Thin....

Well you can get flexible risers that allow you to place a GPU flat beside the mother board. Great feature to add to a pc when you need a dGPU. Also, tobe in spec, an x16 slot provides 75W of power, whereas an x4 will only provide 30W(?) or something around there.

 

[a13antichrist]

Still, point being, it would require a very specific case layout and I can't see them releasing this to retail.

However, would be interested to see those Gigabyte boards. Did your mr CC give you any indication of time-frame?

 

[Jello]

The Gigabyte link I referenced in my post lists the dates for the motherboards, July 2018 for both the H310 and Q370 chipset TN boards.

I agree, the case layout is very specific, good thing we have some determined users on this forum who are interested in designing those cases.

 

[a13antichrist]

Ahh, heh, missed the link

GSM meaning "Gigabyte Stable Models", also I'm not seeing any Q370, and the two 310 & 370 listed are also (interestingly) named 'IMB' so still doubtful they'll actually be retail-stocked models...

 

[Jello]

Paging @ASRock System , maybe they can help you out if you're interested in grabbing one of the boards @a13antichrist

Also, if you look at the Gigabyte table, the grey bar above each model lists what chipset it is using, so the 370 board you're looking at is a Q370.

 

[a13antichrist]

Yeah my real question is whether there will be consumer/retail models

 

[CC Ricers]

For Gigabyte the Q370 model is GA-IMB370TN-GSM PLUS. I have the H110 model, which is bios upgradeable to Kaby Lake.

And the case layout limits for the CPU socket actually work in my favor in making it easier to produce. Because you're always guaranteed to have the CPU socket closer to the PCIe port, you will always have the same length of cable to connect the GPU beside the area where the RAM slots are.

 

[Windfall]

For Gigabyte the Q370 model is GA-IMB370TN-GSM PLUS. I have the H110 model, which is bios upgradeable to Kaby Lake.

And the case layout limits for the CPU socket actually work in my favor in making it easier to produce. Because you're always guaranteed to have the CPU socket closer to the PCIe port, you will always have the same length of cable to connect the GPU beside the area where the RAM slots are.

That asrock board with your case and WX4100 +awesome

 

[a13antichrist]

For Gigabyte the Q370 model is GA-IMB370TN-GSM PLUS. I have the H110 model, which is bios upgradeable to Kaby Lake.

And the case layout limits for the CPU socket actually work in my favor in making it easier to produce. Because you're always guaranteed to have the CPU socket closer to the PCIe port, you will always have the same length of cable to connect the GPU beside the area where the RAM slots are.

Doubt I'll ever put together an SFF of any variety with dGPU, my interest in SFF will be limited to HTPC and possibly NAS if I find a nice 12+ drive case, heh.