Any estimate of when the case is available for sale? I will be ordering from Canada.
I'm working with an excellent packaging designer, and our #1 priority is to make sure these things ship safe and sound
This case will actually be shipping from Europe or Asia most likely, and we'll be using a professional courier service, so you won't have to worry about customs fees. I can't guarantee anything at this point, but I also hate issues with customs, so am looking for the smoothest and least painful solution.
Oh, can I jump in and answer this one? (Cue Stephanie Tanner - "How rude!")@CircleTect - Custom loops intimidate me. AIOs have a certain appeal. This is a tangent, but how hard would it be to make this case support either a 240mm rad or twin 120mm rads? Is that feasible?
High end CPUs only generate 100W of heat. Mid range GPUs run 150W. High-end GPUs run 250W. It seems to me that the GPU is best served with water-cooling? These are becoming more common.
Above is the Corsair GTX 1080 Ti Corsair Hydro. It's an MSI card with a corsair AIO attached. This particular card is too big for most ITX cases, but there isn't anything keeping a modder from doing the "The Mod" to a small ITX GPU.
I'm a dreamer, but man... It would be SWEET if this case could support a water-cooled GPU. Can I just imagine a Circle Pro with a Zotac GTX 1080 Ti Mini with "The Mod?"
Can I just imagine a Circle Pro with a Zotac GTX 1080 Ti Mini with "The Mod?"
FYI that's just a pump top/custom lower housing for the DDC, not a reservoir, which are a separate (and much bigger) part you add on. The top/housing is 62x63x63mm by itself, while the smallest res they offer increases the overall height to 203mm. Only place I could see it fitting is lengthwise below the GPU, but I'm guessing there's not quite enough space for it (particularly once fittings are taken into account).
The Apogee Drive II won't fit, either. @Wahaha360 picked one of these up recently to take some measurements, here it is with a 60 degree fitting (the ports swivel 30 degrees, so 60 degree fittings are needed to make it an even 90 degrees):
FYI that's just a pump top/custom lower housing for the DDC, not a reservoir, which are a separate (and much bigger) part you add on. The top/housing is 62x63x63mm by itself, while the smallest res they offer increases the overall height to 203mm. Only place I could see it fitting is lengthwise below the GPU, but I'm guessing there's not quite enough space for it (particularly once fittings are taken into account).
The Apogee Drive II won't fit, either. @Wahaha360 picked one of these up recently to take some measurements, here it is with a 60 degree fitting (the ports swivel 30 degrees, so 60 degree fittings are needed to make it an even 90 degrees):
As you can see, it needs close to 70mm with these particular fittings (13mm OD Bitspowers). @CircleTect has stated 51mm as the available CPU cooler/block height, so we're short by close to 20mm.
In terms of what might work, Koolance has a DDC pump top, which can be combined with some very short tube reservoirs. One of these might fit sideways under the PSU. Conveniently, they also provide models and drawings for many of their parts.
Another possibility is the Fractal Design Celsius/Kelvin expandable AIO. The only potential problem that I see, with the Celsius specifically, is the tubing comes straight out of the block, which might make it overall too tall to fit properly. It looks like it uses standard G1/4 ports, so you should be able to replace the stock fittings with right angle fittings, however that may not be enough to keep it under the 51mm maximum the case allows for.
Alright, let's have a look at the space we have. There isn't any room under the PSU. That area is designed to hide excess cable runs. In my builds, I've been coiling and stuffing the cables in there and makes for a clean build. I don't think you can fit anything else in there.
The image above doesn't do it full justice, but you can see the scale of one single power cable. There will be about 4 of them stuffed in there in a regular build. I designed the fan bracket underneath to actually clamp and compress on the cables in this area, that's how cramped it can get.
So why not move the PSU up closer to the radiator? Two reasons: although it looks like there's ample room in this picture, you're actually working against the minimum bend radius of the radiator tubes. Using a TD02 Lite, the pipes are quite stiff, and this is nearing the minimum distance I can bend them in without uncomfortably distorting them. The distance from the top of the PSU to the radiator is 46mm.
Second factor at the moment is the IEC cable. Because different power supplies have the IEC port facing different directions, I had to change the IEC connector from a right angle model to a standard straight model. This is so you wouldn't get a nasty surprise finding your power supply was not compatible.
On the other side is where we have a bit of room, if you're ok sacrificing 2.5" drive support. The pink rectangle has the dimensions: 143 x 38 x 80mm. You could probably increase the depth measurement from 38mm to something like 40-42, but you'll start majorly clashing with the IEC cable.
I would love to make a set of custom cooling solutions - because it would mean I could make custom fittings into the radiator. This, in combination with a new custom IEC low profile connector, means we could move the PSU closer to the radiator, potentially giving us more room for accessories. But that's a long term plan. For now, priority is on stock components and compatibility
