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Phuncz · Nov 12, 2015

It depends on where you live, I guess. Here in Belgium electricity is going to go up in price (again) next year, most households will be paying between € 1.500 and € 2.000 annually. So leaving a PC on 24/7 is quite expensive here.

confusis · Nov 12, 2015

we pay ~NZ$0.25 per kwh at the moment, used to be closer to 0.15 kwh.

So if a PC uses 60w at idle, 18 hrs a day (excl load times, high estimate for my current FX PC) you would be looking at NZ$100 (60 Euro) a year. That's an extra 5 euro a month for not having to wait for your system to boot, reduced load on the motors (hdd and fan motors spinning up when cold) and PSU wear and tear (caps charging and the like)

Josh | NFC · Nov 17, 2015

Wow! Amazing what you can learn on these boards...now I have all sorts of ideas swirling around in my head...

veryrarium · Feb 6, 2016

An update of this not so useful thread, just a few more right-angle PCIe equipped boards:
SOYO SY-B85-PIO / SY-B85-PIO S1

http://www.soyocn.net/2015/1010/2185.html
http://www.soyocn.net/2015/1119/2206.html
The latter is used inside the Teclast X32 Air All-In-One PC:
http://www.gearbest.com/tablet-pcs/pp_277572.html

ASRock B150M-PIO / H110M-PIO

Phuncz · Feb 6, 2016

Oh this would be very welcome, it would make console-style cases much easier to reach a higher volume efficiency.

PlayfulPhoenix · Feb 6, 2016

Phuncz said:
Oh this would be very welcome, it would make console-style cases much easier to reach a higher volume efficiency.

Imagine a barebones enclosure with one of these and a low-profile CPU cooler (or even a PSU if you so wanted). At ~$250 per, it would be a very good deal, and would let you provide a console-sized enclosure that would accept completely standard parts.

Phuncz · Feb 6, 2016

Indeed, with both CPU and GPU cooling at the same side, SFX-L PSU in front of the motherboard, makes an easy-to-build Steambox, game PC or portable workstation.

I sure hope Silverstone doesn't leave this immense cornerstone of the market hanging out to dry, it would be a serious boost for SFF acceptance even more.

iFreilicht · Feb 7, 2016

Maybe the ASrock board could get released as a commercial product. It's too deep and too wide for most ITX enclosures, but at least it will fit any mATX case and in some larger ITX cases, it might still fit because the additional width only manifests on the left side of the board where there's usually additional space.

Thinking about the possible implications of using such a board, your case design gets quite limited in some aspects, especially Z-position of the GPU. I think with both of these boards you'd probably be better off using a flexible riser and a standard mITX board.

BirdofPrey · Feb 8, 2016

Given the non-standard expansion card location, these boards pretty much demand a custom case solution, so I have my fears if/when any of these come out, they will be some sort of OEM only fare.

Still, I would like to get my hands on one, having the component side of the motherboard and video card being on the same side, and not having to use risers to get them parallel, have some nice advantages.

veryrarium · Jun 17, 2016

When I started this thread, and when I found those box images of the ASRock boards, I had hopes of these boards reaching the DIY consumer market like any other consumer mITX/mATX/ATX boards, but I have little now. Unless someone in China takes motherboards out of some AIO/PIO monitors and sell them on taobao or aliexpress, the only way to obtain any of these boards are just purchasing an AIO/PIO monitor from China.

Anyways just a little update with boards from vendors that haven't shown up in this thread:

MSI B150M ICAFE AIO
There is a 2280 M.2 slot, a mPCIe slot, and two PCIe slots.
The spec on the MSI site says 1xPCIe3.0x16 and 2xPCIe3.0x1 as well as 23.5x18cm but they probably copy-pasted the spec of a wrong product, e.g. B150M PRO-VD. According to Sunmilo@Chiphell who apparently snapped those photos of this board it's 205x205mm.
Sources: MSI, Chiphell (both in Chinese)

GIGABYTE GA-B85M-PIO-SI
Two PCIe slots.
Sources: Gigabyte, ZOL, SMZDM, SMZDM, ZOL, SMZDM, EXPreview, MT.SOHU, CFAN (all of these in Chinese), Tweaktown (in English)

GIGABYTE GA-B85M-PIO-H
Just one PCIe slot.
Source: Gigabyte (in Chinese)

GIGABYTE GA-B150M-PIO-SI
Two PCIe slots.
Source: Gigabyte (in Chinese)

GIGABYTE GA-B150M-PIO-H
No photo.
Just one PCIe slot.

COLORFUL NetBar B85M-AIO V20
Two PCIe slots, 192x197mm
Source: COLORFUL (in Chinese)
Looks like an identical layout with the SOYO board several posts above.

COLORFUL showed a B150 version of this @COMPUTEX2016 but now GTX950 on board. (Aibohphobia covered similar boards by them with GTX980 and GTX1070 on board instead in his article.)

EdZ · Jun 17, 2016

Nice work! +1 sleuthing.
Most of those appear to forego m.2 in favour of mPCIe, but I can see some errant standoffs lurking on the GIGABYTE GA-B85M-PIO-H, so there may be an m.2 on the backside of the board.

Phuncz · Jun 17, 2016

It figures these boards aren't available to consumers, since there is no consumer-available case that fits these configurations either. Although the same can be said about certain PSU types though, a board is much more specific in use-case.

veryrarium · Jun 17, 2016

EdZ said:
Nice work! +1 sleuthing.
Most of those appear to forego m.2 in favour of mPCIe, but I can see some errant standoffs lurking on the GIGABYTE GA-B85M-PIO-H, so there may be an m.2 on the backside of the board.

Yeah looks like there are M.2 screw mounts for just 2242 and 2260. Unlike most other vendors gigabyte.cn doesn't seem to have these boards officially listed so no way of confirming this until I stumble on a detailed assembly/disassembly review of a PIO monitor with B85M-PIO-H in it.

Soul_Est · Jun 25, 2016

After some searching, I found the reason for the creation of these boards: All-In-One PCs.

The Air variants of Teclast's AIO PCs (T32, X32, and X40).

http://www.teclast.com/zt/aio/T32Air/

http://www.teclast.com/zt/aio/X32Air/

http://www.teclast.com/zt/aio/X40Air/

I would say that this helps system integrators that wish to build a VR backpack as well.

IntoxicatedPuma · Jun 26, 2016

https://s.taobao.com/search?q=b150m...all:1&initiative_id=staobaoz_20160626&ie=utf8

https://s.taobao.com/search?q=h110m...all:1&initiative_id=staobaoz_20160626&ie=utf8

Seem's the Asrock b150M is on Taobao for a relatively affordable 700 rmb (about $105) or 600 rmb for the H110M

veryrarium · Jun 26, 2016

IntoxicatedPuma said:
https://s.taobao.com/search?q=b150m-pio&imgfile=&js=1&stats_click=search_radio_all:1&initiative_id=staobaoz_20160626&ie=utf8

https://s.taobao.com/search?q=h110m-pio&imgfile=&js=1&stats_click=search_radio_all:1&initiative_id=staobaoz_20160626&ie=utf8

Seem's the Asrock b150M is on Taobao for a relatively affordable 700 rmb (about $105) or 600 rmb for the H110M

Great find! I'd be even happier if you could also spot any seller on Taobao or any marketplace who sell MSI B150M ICAFE AIO... so far I haven't successfully.

IntoxicatedPuma · Jun 26, 2016

I looked for othersbut this as all I could find

jeshikat · Oct 3, 2016

https://smallformfactor.net/forum/threads/sff-network-asrock-z170m-pio2-motherboard-announced.1043

Josh | NFC · Oct 3, 2016

Aibohphobia said:
https://smallformfactor.net/forum/threads/sff-network-asrock-z170m-pio2-motherboard-announced.1043

These just get my hopes up.

R3venger · Feb 25, 2017

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