How useful that EveryMac linked directly to that page from their 2018 FAQ section.
Did you see someone confirm it was soldered somewhere else?
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Did you see someone confirm it was soldered somewhere else?
I just confirmed it on the youtube video I posted (snazzylabs)
he pulls out the PSU as well.
They're using mobile CPUs (H series) in the new mac mini, that's why they're more rectangular compared to the desktop CPUs.
As shown on their website: https://www.google.com.hk/url?sa=i&...aw2KRRGf4vwXMR3une6Nk949&ust=1541822155015294
As shown on their website: https://www.google.com.hk/url?sa=i&...aw2KRRGf4vwXMR3une6Nk949&ust=1541822155015294
No they aren’t...
Those are 65W coffee lake CPUs with desktop-grade frequencies in a BGA variant...that’s the whole reason this release is awesome and unexpected based on the Mini track record...
Probably these ones:
https://www.anandtech.com/show/12632/intel-core-b-processors-8th-gen-bga-with-65w-tdp
plus a custom i3-8100B (frequencies don’t match with the i3-8100h but with the i3-8100)
Better not to have an on package parasite GPU to steal cooling and power from the CPU half in a system that can use 4 external Vega56 gpus anyway..
Ah, didn't know those existed, indeed that would make them much better. Thanks for the correction.
Here around 2:00 to 5:00 the guy shows sustained 6 cores x 3.9GHz (all cores turbo spec like i5-8500) at 100% at 96-97C no throttling (he tried several minutes) and gentle blower sound; this is on the i5-8500B (base 3.0 boost 4.1). The i7-8700B (base 3.2, boost 4.6, HT, all cores turbo 4.3) is available as a CTO option from apple.
Nice.
Nice.
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Kaby Lake G would have allowed me to play WoW without needing an eGPU..
Someone needs to come out with an eGPU (probably using a MXM format GPU card, RX580 & Vega 56 options) that matches the design & footprint (it would be taller, of course) of the new SG mini...
Another module for external storage (four 2280 M.2 NVMe SSDs & RAID controller)...
I could also see a Time Capsule / Network hub (3.5" HDD & four 10Gb Ethernet ports, three LAN & one WAN)...
And finally, a nice audio I/O (similar to the one in the above video w/ two mic preamps), I would also add a USB-C for video IN; this would be a great module for Streamers...
All the modules will be of the same dimensions as the new SG mini, but some modules may be taller for cooling...
One could build up a pretty sweet little stack of five components (with main monitor off eGPU & secondary monitor off of the integrated GPU / HDMI port on SG mini), making a complete DCC (Digital Content Creation) workstation...!
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It's going to be a hot little pancake that's for sure.
https://egpu.io/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/2018-mac-mini-mantiz-venus-wx-9100-egpu-prime95.png
Prime95 for less than 10 minutes and we have a "gentle" 100C on the CPU package.
I really like Apple's offerings with these new releases tho. Macbook Pro 15" with a Vega 20 GFX chip being the one I have high expectations for, probably going to be too salty for an average joe like myself tho.
https://egpu.io/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/2018-mac-mini-mantiz-venus-wx-9100-egpu-prime95.png
Prime95 for less than 10 minutes and we have a "gentle" 100C on the CPU package.
I really like Apple's offerings with these new releases tho. Macbook Pro 15" with a Vega 20 GFX chip being the one I have high expectations for, probably going to be too salty for an average joe like myself tho.
While not the same footprint, it suites the theme IMO, stacked ontop of eachother. Vega 56 is a no go, but lesser cards would work.
Zotac AMP box mini -->
https://egpu.io/forums/thunderbolt-enclosures/zotac-amp-box-mini-review-budget-friendly/
Sonnet has a decent little eGPU, which from the size looks like it is MXM format GPU card based...
https://www.sonnettech.com/product/egfx-breakaway-puck.html
But only with RX560 or RX570 GPUs...
For me, a RX580 w/ 8GB RAM would be minimum, with a Vega 56 w/ 8GB HBM2 preferred...
Maybe I might just wait to see what the new modular Mac Pro brings, maybe the WX9100 would be an option...!
Am I the only one that worries for the surrounding components ? It must be hot as hell inside, even the chassis might be hot. SSD and memory modules won't live a long life if it runs likes that for too long.
I'm also worried for use in summer at this point...
We have no evidence those temps read by sensors embedded in the CPU reflect the surrounding temps within the case...for what it’s worth:
- RAM is free floating at an angle over the CPU, within an airy cage
- SSD’s flash modules are on the front, not adiacent to the CPU area
- SSD’s controller (T2 ARM coprocessor) is on the opposite side relative to the CPU; T2 is also used for HEVC encoding (only 8b) and decoding (8b/10b) in certain apps, and many other things, it’s a good thing it’s on the opposite side
If these are really meant for running 24/7 in clusters (as Apple marketing dared to imply on stage), not sure it would be easy to kill one at home...
My assumption is from personal experience as an embedded systems engineer.
Also, Apple is pretty used to play at the limit of thermal meltdown. I remember a colleague MBP whose keyboard was utterly hot if stressed for too long....
They definitely favor sound over thermals...hope they struck the right balance with this new “new course” Mini...can’t complain much about my last 3 (2009, 2010 and 2014, all still used) but I do nothing sustainingly stressful...I maxed out the 2014 (i7 3.0Ghz + 16GB soldered) thinking it would be the last mini ever...now this...well my 2014 will be the last mini with 2.5” drive + removable pcie SSD (proprietary but fast and widely available on ebay)...I can do 1TB pcie + 4TB sata ssd all inside 
