GPU 2070 Super ITX

[scatterforce]

I think it obvious that there will be 2060 Super ITX variants: single 8 pin, TDP of only 175 watts, and it's essentially a 2070.

What's less certain is an ITX version of the 2070 Super, which is based on the 2080. When I started looking today, however, I stumbled upon this: link

At the very least, Gigabyte has listed product skews for several 2070 Super ITX models. Several questions still remain:
1. How hot will it run
2. How loud will it run
3. How long will we have to wait

 

[Revenant]

This is from a post I made in the MI-6 thread, but it applies here.

Just for reference for those wondering about ITX sized GPUS that will fit in an MI-6:

GTX 1070 has a 150 Watt TDP
GTX 1080 has a 180 Watt TDP

RTX 2070 has a 185 Watt TDP
RTX 2080 has a 225 Watt TDP

Navi 5700 has a 180 Watt TDP
Navi 5700XT has a 225 Watt TDP

Radeon VII has a 295 Watt TDP

RX 580 has a 185 Watt TDP
RX 590 has a 225 Watt TDP

Vega 56 has a 210 Watt TDP
Vega 64 has a 295 Watt TDP

Radeon R9 Nano has a 175 Watt TDP
Radeon R9 Fury X has a 285 Watt TDP (AIO Cooling)


With the exception of the water cooled R9 Fury X, we haven't really seen any 2 slot ITX side GPUs above 210 Watts. The 210 Watt unit was a Vega 56 Nano but most reviews indicated that at stock settings it was running a 100mhz slower core clock than most Vega 56s, which would probably lower the TDP into the range of 190 to 200. I may be wrong, but I don't recall seeing any RX580s or RX590s in mini form. I have an RX 570 mini from Sapphire and it runs quite warm and loud compared to my MSI Aero 1070.

Of the new generation of GPUs, I would expect to see the RTX 2060, RTX 2070, and possibly the Navi 5700 as ITX candidates. Perhaps we could see the Navi 5700XT and RTX 2080 if a combination of 3 slot vaporchamber coolers, faster and louder fans, and possibly AIO are used. I know EVGA has released a 1660TI 3 Slot mini cooler, but that's too big for the MI-6.

 

[scatterforce]

The 2070 Super reference model is rated at 215 watts. I think an ITX model is still in the range of possibilities.... and Gigabyte seems to think the same.

MSI, however, does not. Their Aero line of RTX cards lists the 2060 Super, but not the 2070 Super. They did make an ITX model of the original 2070, so that's telling.

Edit: Gigabyte does make a 1660 ti mini that should fit the MI-6

 

[QuantumBraced]

Reposting my reply to this from the Velka 3 thread regarding the rumored Gigabyte 2070 Super ITX:

I wonder how they'll engineer the card and what they'll do for the cooling solution. The TU104 is a much larger die, 545mm, larger than the 1080 Ti. So fitting it all + the VRM for 215W on a card under 175mm will be interesting to see. Also, they'll have to alter the cooling solution, what they used on the 2070 and 1080 won't be enough. So I'm really curious to see what they do.

Triple slot or water cooling kind of defeats the purpose. For dual slot, perhaps if they made the card tall enough to accommodate a high RPM 140mm fan, with an all-copper vapor chamber heatsink, they may be able to cool 215W and even 250W with higher noise. That's the only way I see it done, otherwise there's only so much physics will allow you to do. The question is, do they see demand for a product like this.

 

[scatterforce]

There is hope!

 

[LiYonJin]

interesting...if this happens I think I will sell my 1080ti and convert to a smaller case then buy a 2070 super mini, as the 2060 super aero mini too much of a downgrade

 

[whydontyoufit]

I'm new to the forums, but have been running ITX builds for the past 6-7 years (one desktop/gaming rig and one esxi server). I'm in the market for a new GPU and am leaning toward the 2070 super. These haven't been appearing, yet, but I did just see a 'coming soon' slot on newegg for the Zotac 2070 super mini.
https://www.zotac.com/us/product/graphics_card/zotac-gaming-geforce-rtx-2070-super-mini#spec Not sure if this is news, but thought I'd share.

 

[NinoPecorino]

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[McSpain]

• Thermal Design Power: 215W
• System Requirements: Recommended Power Supply: 650W
• Power Connector: 8+6-pin

Holy smokes.

 

[maped]

Ooh, nice to finally see an itx(ish)-sized 2070S. I've been thinking of replacing my Zotac 1080 Mini, but I think I've convinced myself to wait for the next round of cards from AMD/Nvidia. Still, should be a nice card and I'm glad they've finally gotten rid of the DVI-connector to allow for single slot setup with water cooling.

edit: Looks like the card will be available in europe next week and it seems to be among the cheapest 2070S variants.

 

[rkr]

I've been in contact with Gigabyte support, and things don't look good for the skews that were rumored back in July.

Looks like the Zotac 2070 Super Mini might be the only one available...

 

[Revenant]

I think we’re going to be stuck for a bit until Nvidia goes to 10 or 7 nm. Sadly AMD just doesn’t have any sub 200 watt high end parts.

 

[scatterforce]

@rkr that's disappointing. I'm glad I broke down and bought an ITX 2070 (non S) while they were in stock. Doing a quick search, things are worse than I thought. I figured the 2060 Super would replace the inventory of the 2070 ITX form factor, but that hasn't happened.

MSI has an ITX 2060 super, but the only place I can find where you can buy it is Australia for a lot of money.

Galax (KFA2 in Eurpoe) has a model as well, but I can't find any place to purchase one.

Gigabyte apparently has no plans and Zotac doesn't follow the ITX standard. EVGA doesn't even do that weird triple slot single fan card with the 2060 super. For the high end, we have nothing.

 

[Valantar]

It's strange how AIB makers seem to be moving away from ITX-sized cards despite every other part of SFF computing seeming to be in rapid growth - with more and better ITX boards than ever before, better cooling, more cases, more PSUs, and so on. Could it be due to the appearance and popularity of SFF cases with full-size GPU support? In other words: do we blame Dan and Ncase for this? Joking aside though, I really hope we see more compact GPUs in the near future.

I think we’re going to be stuck for a bit until Nvidia goes to 10 or 7 nm. Sadly AMD just doesn’t have any sub 200 watt high end parts.

The RX 5700 XT is a 190W part at stock, but most AIB partners seem to increase the power limit to allow for higher sustained clocks (anywhere from 200-220W). It's too bad Zotac only makes Nvidia cards, as an RX 5700 or 5700 XT in their Mini format would be really nice.

 

[Plsk1n]

@rkr that's disappointing. I'm glad I broke down and bought an ITX 2070 (non S) while they were in stock. Doing a quick search, things are worse than I thought. I figured the 2060 Super would replace the inventory of the 2070 ITX form factor, but that hasn't happened.

MSI has an ITX 2060 super, but the only place I can find where you can buy it is Australia for a lot of money.

Galax (KFA2 in Eurpoe) has a model as well, but I can't find any place to purchase one.

Gigabyte apparently has no plans and Zotac doesn't follow the ITX standard. EVGA doesn't even do that weird triple slot single fan card with the 2060 super. For the high end, we have nothing.

Check amazon japan for itx 2060 super options, I believe you can find Galax options available to purchase there as well.

 

[Revenant]

It's strange how AIB makers seem to be moving away from ITX-sized cards despite every other part of SFF computing seeming to be in rapid growth - with more and better ITX boards than ever before, better cooling, more cases, more PSUs, and so on. Could it be due to the appearance and popularity of SFF cases with full-size GPU support? In other words: do we blame Dan and Ncase for this? Joking aside though, I really hope we see more compact GPUs in the near future.

The RX 5700 XT is a 190W part at stock, but most AIB partners seem to increase the power limit to allow for higher sustained clocks (anywhere from 200-220W). It's too bad Zotac only makes Nvidia cards, as an RX 5700 or 5700 XT in their Mini format would be really nice.

AMD rates it at 225 watt for the 5700XT, but the 5700 is at 180 Watt. I'd happily take one of those in ITX form.

 

[Valantar]

AMD rates it at 225 watt for the 5700XT, but the 5700 is at 180 Watt. I'd happily take one of those in ITX form.

Ah, damn, I was thinking of GPU TDP (which for AMD is only for the GPU itself), not TBP. Still, that's significantly less than a 1080 Ti, of which Zotac made a Mini.

 

[NinoPecorino]

2070 super mini water block is now available

https://www.aliexpress.com/wholesale?catId=0&initiative_id=SB_20191215124835&SearchText=ZOTAC+RTX+2070+SUPER-8GD6+MINI+OC+

 

[QuantumBraced]

If Zotac can make a 2070 Super Mini (well their mini is not really mini, but still 211mm), why can't they make a 2080 Super Mini? It's the same die and not much more TDP. It's less TDP than the 1080 Ti.

 

[Revenant]

If Zotac can make a 2070 Super Mini (well their mini is not really mini, but still 211mm), why can't they make a 2080 Super Mini? It's the same die and not much more TDP. It's less TDP than the 1080 Ti.

Probably isn’t profitable enough...