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I was all set on a dan case build with a 3900x and a 2080 (or similar) until I happened upon this thread again. 5ish liters sounds pretty great though if the case can do a decent job of cooling the cpu without throttling. I bought a 650w evga sfx psu and have a 1070 mini from a previous build that I was going to transition over into the smaller case so might just pick up the amd and an itx mobo, [USER=9340]@VELKASE Michael[/USER] I don't suppose you've gotten your hands on any of these cpu's to see what they'd be like in the 5? I take it the 3 with something this hot and a 2070 super instead would be a pipedream?