SFF.Network Red flags are waving as Intel reveals their Core-X prices.

Hot off the press, direct from Videocardz.com, we now know what the world looks like when AMD provides healthy competition in the market.
For the price of Intel's last-gen 3.7GHz 8-core processor (i7-6900k), you will soon be able to scoop up Intel's latest 4.5GHz 10-core processor. Impressive! ...or is it?

Read more here.

 

[VegetableStu]

Anandtech goes through the intel annoucement here

EDIT: They almost halved the price on the new 8-Core unit. (6900K: $1089-$1109; 7820X: $599) Thanks AMD!
EDITx2: I might look out for secondhand 6900K CPU listings soon though.

 

[3lfk1ng]

haha, I love your new avatar @VegetableStu

Admittedly, our article errors more on the pessimistic side although we welcome the competitive pricing.
It will be interesting to see if Intel's design changes will have a negative impact, or no impact at all, when the official reviews go live.

The key takeways here are:
- At first glance, it appears that Intel has cut a few corners/specs to save money.
- AMD's R5 1600x offers extremely competitive performance to Intel's i9-7800X but offers much better price: performance.
- For the first time, Intel is not using soldered IHS on their HEDT platform processors.

All over the net, armchair enthusiasts are crying fowl and the Cinebench R15 benchmark results DER8AUER posted certainly don't help.

Hopefully Intel knows what they are doing and will answer with results.

 

[Boil]

So, I was sipping the X299 / i9 Kool-Aid HARD earlier...

See https://smallformfactor.net/forum/threads/thoughts-towards-ultimate-sff-x299-build.2266/...

But all I need to get back on the Ryzen / Vega bandwagon is some news of an ITX-sized version of RX Vega...

We shall call it, Nano...!

US$1,700.00 should get one a pretty good build:

ASRock Fatal1ty AB350 Gaming-ITX/ac MB
AMD Ryzen R7 1700 (3.0GHz stock clock rate / 3.7GHz turbo clock rate / 65W TDP)
AMD Wraith Spire CPU cooler (the LED-enabled version that is included with the CPU / rated for a 95W TDP / 92mm x 25mm PWM fan)
32GB G.Skill RAM (DDR4 / 2 @ 16GB DIMMs / 3200 / CAS 14)
Samsung 960 EVO SSD (1TB / M.2 / 2280 / PCIe 3.0 x4 / NVMe)
RX Vega Nano GPU (ITX-sized / 8-pin / 8GB HBM2)

Assuming BIOS updates that allow more RAM to work properly & at speed, & hoping for GTX 1080 level performance for a slightly less than GTX 1080 price (say US$450.00) from the (as yet) hypothetical) RX Vega Nano GPU...!?!

I am basing the RX Vega Nano being at the GTX 1080 level of performance off of the R9 Fury Nano being at the GTX 980 level of performance...

 

[VegetableStu]

Haha thanks @3lfk1ng. Liking this sudden flooding of Computex news here!

 

[MarcParis]

I'm so happy of my choice of R7 1700X for my Cerberus-X build!

Those skylake-X are a joke for my point of view due to their price, but mostly due to the fast they won't have soldered cap/ihs....

And we don't know yet prices for X299 boards...

 

[EdZ]

I'll be looking closely at single-threaded performance. While performance beyond 4 threads may be valuable in the future (we've heard that several times over the last decade, and it's failed to come about each time), I don't run Cinebench or encode video so adding more cores isn't a great draw for me. A shootout between the i7-7740X and i9-7820X mainly boils down to PCIe lane availability (and how many extra m.2 slots beyond 1 on the PCH I might use), whether the KBL-X dies have an advantage in SP IPC, and maybe availability of ECC SODIMMs (which KBL-X cannot use). Maaaaaybe look at one of the HCC die options if they offer anything special (the cache shuffling) and don't take a hit to Turboboost frequency, but probably not worth the expense.

::EDIT:: Or a LGA2066 Xeon, depending on availability and price. With the prices on SKY-X slashed, probably not.

 

[Dyson Poindexter]

Considering Threadripper is about the size of an index card I think HEDT ITX is going to be Intel-only this round...

 

[MarcParis]

not necessarly as it should stay on AM4 size.

But question is : will there be any mini itx X399 motherboard.

 

[VegetableStu]

You know, I wonder if Intel could/would claim continuity and say Cannonlake-X would be on an Intel X399 platform...

 

[MarcParis]

lol..AMD and Intel chipset name are bumping each others..

 

[Dyson Poindexter]

not necessarly as it should stay on AM4 size.

Not quite!

 

[Ionrent]

- For the first time, Intel is not using soldered IHS on their HEDT platform processors.

This is really lame and if it's anything like the i7-7700K it means voiding your warranty just to have reasonable temperatures.

 

[VegetableStu]

Not quite!

Holy crap that thing's almost half the ITX board area O_O

EDIT: did a double-take at this part:

 

[alamilla]

It's a technical challenge sure
and I can't imagine the return on investment will be anything to write home about
but if anyone will take it on my money's with ASRock!

 

[3lfk1ng]

Glad to see that we're not alone in noticing this change.

Here is the article on Intel's lack of a SOLDERED IHS.
https://www.techpowerup.com/233865/...-lake-x-hedt-cpus-to-use-tim-wont-be-soldered

 

[Therandomness]

not necessarly as it should stay on AM4 size.

But question is : will there be any mini itx X399 motherboard.

No, because the socket is actually massive. Proof:

 

[MarcParis]

Yup i saw this video..impressive..