I'm amazed it doesn't tip over ! It probably needs a heavy GPU on the other side for that I guess. I love the build !
Tipping over is not going to happen.I'm amazed it doesn't tip over ! It probably needs a heavy GPU on the other side for that I guess. I love the build !
73C is a very reasonable temp and you can easily live with that, nice to have insurance just in case.Brief testing summary
Testing software: Metro Exodus benchmark run on a continuous loop of 10 rounds. Ultra Preset (at 2560x1600)
9900K in default settings
Ambient temp = 27C
CPU Idle temp = 36C
CPU Max temp = 73C
Next, I put on the NF-A12x25 LS PWM fan (which is recommended by Noctua if one wants additional cooling capacity) to see how much more headroom will there be. The fan is installed blowing horizontally toward the motherboard. This fan was bought as an insurance. When fanless fails, this fan will come in. It is always good to have a Plan B.
At 20% (minimum rotational speed), CPU max temp = 68C
At 100% (~1200 rpm), CPU max temp = 59C
So, it seems the additional headroom is not too small. IIRC, the fan will add another 30W cooling capacity on top of the NH-P1's.
But, I am quite happy with fanless. The fan will be on standby mode indefinitely.
So much for now. Kind of tired....
Brief testing summary
Testing software: Metro Exodus benchmark run on a continuous loop of 10 rounds. Ultra Preset (at 2560x1600)
9900K in default settings
Ambient temp = 27C
CPU Idle temp = 36C
CPU Max temp = 73C
Next, I put on the NF-A12x25 LS PWM fan (which is recommended by Noctua if one wants additional cooling capacity) to see how much more headroom will there be. The fan is installed blowing horizontally toward the motherboard. This fan was bought as an insurance. When fanless fails, this fan will come in. It is always good to have a Plan B.
At 20% (minimum rotational speed), CPU max temp = 68C
At 100% (~1200 rpm), CPU max temp = 59C
So, it seems the additional headroom is not too small. IIRC, the fan will add another 30W cooling capacity on top of the NH-P1's.
But, I am quite happy with fanless. The fan will be on standby mode indefinitely.
So much for now. Kind of tired....
Yes. 73C is quite acceptable to me. I use a gaming benchmark instead of a synthetic test like OCCT or Intel XTU as this reflects more a realistic daily usage.73C is a very reasonable temp and you can easily live with that, nice to have insurance just in case.
This Kombuster should give higher max temp.Results look really good so far. I may still change my mind and get one...
If you find the time, could you please do me the favor to run "MSI Kombustor CPU Burner" stress test with the P1 in passive mode and monitor average power draw & temperature in HWinfo?
Many thanks.
This Kombuster should give higher max temp.
But, I will do it.
Ja, nein problem.
By ''average power draw'', you mean the ''CPU Package Power''. Right?
I used to use OCCT a lot since my early PC years. Its auto generating graphs is a nice-to-have feature. But, in recent years, I tend to use these synthetic tests only for the purpose of testing the stability of an overclock while to use a gaming benchmark to check actual day-to-day usage thermals.Thank you! Unfortunately I don't have Metro Exodus in my games library - but still I'm trying to get an idea if I could run my 3800X passive cooled during gaming with reasonable temps.
I find Kombustor CPU Burner actually pretty useful as it will not stress your CPU as hard as Prime95 or similar torture tests. From my experience the (thermal) results are more comparable with running an actual, CPU demanding game.
Exactly.
@REVOCCASES
Kombustor CPU Burner test (2560x1600 if that matters)
Ambient temp = 27C
Time-------CPU Package Power (Ave)-----CPU Package Temp (Max)
10min--------------70W----------------------------74C
15min--------------76W----------------------------75C
20min--------------80W----------------------------75C
I stopped at 20-minute mark as the temp seems to be in a steady state.
You are welcome.Thank you very much! That looks actually very promising for the use case I have in mind.
Both look like they could do a decent job, let us know which you choose and how it works.Now that the CPU has its new toy to play with, the CPU's neighbour is not happy. How so?
With the NH-C14S, the 14cm fan blew down towards the motherboard. And the top M.2 SSD received some air from the downdraft (even though the cooling benefit not as big as I would like).
Now, with the NH-P1, this side benefit is gone. M.2 SSD temp creeps up silently to a level that I am happy with. Something needs to be done.
One solution is to install the NF-A12x25 LS PWM fan to blow down again. But this would just totally defeat the original purpose of switching from C14S to P1. The prime directive (ie go fanless) is violated.
Another solution is to ziptie a small (say, 4cm) fan to the underside of the P1 to blow air directly towards the M.2 SSD. But this also violates the prime directive.
Now, I am thinking of replacing the stock Asus heatsink cover that came with the Asus Z390i Gaming by a beefier 3rd party heatsink.
So far, these 2 candidates seem to qualify for the job.
a) Sabrent Rocket
b) Cryorig Frostbit
I suppose, the 9900K has its badass passive cooler, the Samsung 970 Pro wants its own too.
Anyone has used either one before?
You are welcome.
BTW, care to leak some details about what you have in mind?
As long as they cool down the controller and not the NAND: https://smallformfactor.net/forum/threads/my-second-streacom-db4-build.16405/post-244723Both look like they could do a decent job, let us know which you choose and how it works.
Yes, Nand prefers 'warmer' while the controller prefers 'cooler'. But the question is, how cool is 'cool' and how hot is 'warm'?As long as they cool down the controller and not the NAND: https://smallformfactor.net/forum/threads/my-second-streacom-db4-build.16405/post-244723
it's the ZS-OC v1 open case. and I believe the P1 does not protrude past the IO shield.Oh nice ! What's this chassis ? Also, does the NH-P1 protrudes past the IO shield ?