Cooling CPU cooler for Node 202

taurus

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Hello,
I am looking for a minimalist case with less holes-sides (dust), I stopped at Node 202, but in the store where it is sold (still) - I was told that it was already difficult to find suitable cooling (and power supply?) - is there a solution to date?
For example: 13500 or 9600 Ryzen. I'm not thinking of adding an external video card at this stage.
If I don't find a good solution for 202 - Plan B : NR200P
 

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Hey.. Not really, CPU cooler options you can use inside a case are mainly dictated by the CPU socket type, motherboard clearance, and it's height. Not dictated by the case brand/model itself.

Similarly, if I remember correctly Node 202 supports SFX PSU, which is one of the latest official PSU standards.
 
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I didn't understand - I have to consider the power of the processor first - > should I get a weaker processor? I looked at a lot of boxes (m-itx) but I didn't find another alternative (small and beautiful = Node 202)...
May be Dan-cases ...C4-SFXv1 (more expensive) and too far from me.
It should be a relatively quiet configuration (into 10-15L case). But to be able to play 4K easily (not games)
 

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I didn't understand - I have to consider the power of the processor first - > should I get a weaker processor? I looked at a lot of boxes (m-itx) but I didn't find another alternative (small and beautiful = Node 202)...
May be Dan-cases ...C4-SFXv1 (more expensive) and too far from me.
It should be a relatively quiet configuration (into 10-15L case). But to be able to play 4K easily (not games)

I want to confirm that I understand before I make any recommendations, you want:

Node 202
ITX Motherboard
SFX PSU
Processor that can display 4K images and videos
You aren’t gaming on it.

What software will you be running on the system?
 

taurus

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I want to confirm that I understand before I make any recommendations, you want:

Node 202
ITX Motherboard
SFX PSU
Processor that can display 4K images and videos
You aren’t gaming on it.

What software will you be running on the system?
Yes, high quality movies, lots of tabs (browsing), may be Photoshop too.
Quiet❗, stylish, compact box (with less ventilation holes (surfaces) = dust). Not too expensive.
With it, the main difficulties are the power supply and video card. But with Ryzen 5 5600G (I don't think I will need a GPU, in near future.)
Cooling: ID Cooling IS-55 (31.2 dBA?), [Thermalright AXP90-X53] (( DEEPCOOL AN600 R-AN600-BKNNMN-G))
RAM: 2x16GB
memory: I think only SSD (1TB)
ITX MB with two video ports.
Exam:
ASROCK B550M-ITX/AC 90-MXBDH0-A0UAYZ
ASRock A520M-ITX/ac

so... better options under $150-180 ?
/different from Asrock?/

Power Supply: I think 450W is enough.

SilverStone SST-ST45SF v 3.0 - SFX Serie, 450W 80 Plus Bronze = 87E

be quiet! SFX Power 3 450 W, 80 Plus Bronze, 68E

Seasonic Power Supply 650W Focus-SPX-650 Modular 158E

What about : Fractal Design Node 202 + Anode SFX Bronze 450W (fabric) = 175E

During that time I was looking for other cases (11-15l), but I liked only these:

LIAN LI Q58 https://lian-li.com/product/q58/
(D) 342mm x (W) 170mm x (H) 250mm 14L - but no more black (only white)
Lian Li A4-H2O = DAN Cases A4-H2O, (H) 244mm,11L - it has many holes... but 159.90€ 😯
 

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Yes, high quality movies, lots of tabs (browsing), may be Photoshop too.
Quiet❗, stylish, compact box (with less ventilation holes (surfaces) = dust). Not too expensive.
With it, the main difficulties are the power supply and video card. But with Ryzen 5 5600G (I don't think I will need a GPU, in near future.)
Cooling: ID Cooling IS-55 (31.2 dBA?), [Thermalright AXP90-X53] (( DEEPCOOL AN600 R-AN600-BKNNMN-G))
RAM: 2x16GB
memory: I think only SSD (1TB)
ITX MB with two video ports.
Exam:
ASROCK B550M-ITX/AC 90-MXBDH0-A0UAYZ
ASRock A520M-ITX/ac

so... better options under $150-180 ?
/different from Asrock?/

Power Supply: I think 450W is enough.

SilverStone SST-ST45SF v 3.0 - SFX Serie, 450W 80 Plus Bronze = 87E

be quiet! SFX Power 3 450 W, 80 Plus Bronze, 68E

Seasonic Power Supply 650W Focus-SPX-650 Modular 158E

What about : Fractal Design Node 202 + Anode SFX Bronze 450W (fabric) = 175E

During that time I was looking for other cases (11-15l), but I liked only these:

LIAN LI Q58 https://lian-li.com/product/q58/
(D) 342mm x (W) 170mm x (H) 250mm 14L - but no more black (only white)
Lian Li A4-H2O = DAN Cases A4-H2O, (H) 244mm,11L - it has many holes... but 159.90€ 😯


High quality movies and multi-tab browsing will not benefit much from a dedicated GPU as the iGPU will be more than ample to play them back.

Photoshop can benefit from a GPU depending on your workload, but it's usually a very specific workload. Tech Notice tested Photoshop 25 with PugetBench 0.93.7 and found only about an 11% performance improvement from the lowest performing RTX 4060 to the top performing Intel ARC A770. My own personal usage I've found that having 64GB of RAM is more important than having a ultra high performance GPU for Photoshop in my work load.

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Adobe Lightroom benefits even less from GPUs except while exporting large amounts of photos and possibly with upcoming AI features.

Any of the coolers you mentioned will cool a 5600G CPU. In terms of how quiet they are, you may want to try using different fans than stock.

450W is more than enough for an APU build. It will be adequate for GPUs below 200 watts. Choose a power supply that shuts off the fan when under low loads to improve the acoustic performance.

Generally, I recommend that you get a more featured mainboard when the budget allows as you it's easier to upgrade in the future. I have a Gigabyte B550 ITX board in my most recent build. Other than the wi-fi module failing (which I personally don't need), it's been good.
 

taurus

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What is the best MB (AM5) mITX, for a long time with two video ports - at a price of about 160-220 Eur
Perhaps: Gigabyte B650I AX
And APU - ~200-250E >
RYZEN 5 8600G
(in "Shopin BQ 696" by In WIn)