Advice Another NCase M1 Advise Thread

kewtz

Efficiency Noob
Original poster
Jul 10, 2020
7
1
Hello,

Waiting for AMD to announce their new stuffs next week, and waiting for stock on 3080s to normalize...
I haven't decided between the FE and the Asus TUF edition, glad they both barely fit.

I may replace the 3900x with the 5900x depending on pricing, performance, etc...

My main question is AIO/FAN orientation.
Does a side mounted AIO cause problems? Should the bottom fans be intake or exhaust?
Is there a diagram I can reference on this?

I'm open to your comments about the build as well.

The build I'm looking at is here:

PCPartPicker Part List: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/3zr2K4

CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 3900X 3.8 GHz 12-Core Processor ($429.99 @ Walmart)
CPU Cooler: Corsair iCUE H100i RGB PRO XT 75 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($119.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Asus ROG Strix X570-I Gaming Mini ITX AM4 Motherboard ($249.99 @ Walmart)
Memory: G.Skill Trident Z Neo 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory ($173.98 @ Newegg)
Storage: ADATA XPG SX8200 Pro 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive ($134.99 @ B&H)
Storage: ADATA XPG SX8200 Pro 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive ($134.99 @ B&H)
Video Card: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 10 GB Founders Edition Video Card ($699.00)
Power Supply: Corsair SF 750 W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully Modular SFX Power Supply ($321.00 @ Amazon)
Case Fan: Noctua A12x25 PWM 60.1 CFM 120 mm Fan ($32.06 @ Amazon)
Case Fan: Noctua A12x25 PWM 60.1 CFM 120 mm Fan ($32.06 @ Amazon)
Case Fan: Noctua A12x25 PWM 60.1 CFM 120 mm Fan ($32.06 @ Amazon)
Case Fan: Noctua A12x25 PWM 60.1 CFM 120 mm Fan ($32.06 @ Amazon)
Monitor: ViewSonic ELITE XG270QG 27.0" 2560x1440 165 Hz Monitor ($599.99 @ B&H)
Custom: Case - NCase M1 ($210.00)
Total: $3202.16
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-10-01 07:13 EDT-0400
 

Kallus

Caliper Novice
Feb 27, 2018
24
8
Hello,

Waiting for AMD to announce their new stuffs next week, and waiting for stock on 3080s to normalize...
I haven't decided between the FE and the Asus TUF edition, glad they both barely fit.

I may replace the 3900x with the 5900x depending on pricing, performance, etc...

My main question is AIO/FAN orientation.
Does a side mounted AIO cause problems? Should the bottom fans be intake or exhaust?
Is there a diagram I can reference on this?

I'm open to your comments about the build as well.

The build I'm looking at is here:

PCPartPicker Part List: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/3zr2K4

CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 3900X 3.8 GHz 12-Core Processor ($429.99 @ Walmart)
CPU Cooler: Corsair iCUE H100i RGB PRO XT 75 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($119.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Asus ROG Strix X570-I Gaming Mini ITX AM4 Motherboard ($249.99 @ Walmart)
Memory: G.Skill Trident Z Neo 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory ($173.98 @ Newegg)
Storage: ADATA XPG SX8200 Pro 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive ($134.99 @ B&H)
Storage: ADATA XPG SX8200 Pro 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive ($134.99 @ B&H)
Video Card: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 10 GB Founders Edition Video Card ($699.00)
Power Supply: Corsair SF 750 W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully Modular SFX Power Supply ($321.00 @ Amazon)
Case Fan: Noctua A12x25 PWM 60.1 CFM 120 mm Fan ($32.06 @ Amazon)
Case Fan: Noctua A12x25 PWM 60.1 CFM 120 mm Fan ($32.06 @ Amazon)
Case Fan: Noctua A12x25 PWM 60.1 CFM 120 mm Fan ($32.06 @ Amazon)
Case Fan: Noctua A12x25 PWM 60.1 CFM 120 mm Fan ($32.06 @ Amazon)
Monitor: ViewSonic ELITE XG270QG 27.0" 2560x1440 165 Hz Monitor ($599.99 @ B&H)
Custom: Case - NCase M1 ($210.00)
Total: $3202.16
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-10-01 07:13 EDT-0400
I have my bottom fans set as intake because then they feed the gpu with even more static pressure and air flow. I don't have any exhaust fans in my system but if you want to use one there is a spot for 92mm fan on the back of the case. The reason I don't have exhaust fans is because the case has a lot of positive pressure and therefore the air naturally will find it's way out of the case.

As far as side mounted aio's go im not too sure. But I wouldn't really recommend it since the noctua u9s is a really damn good cooler, even on par with some of the aio's out there on the market with the benefit that you don't have to worry about the hoses from the radiator the cpu. With a side mounted aio and bottom intake fans you also lose the ability to mount 3.5 inch drives on the side bracket. I would look at optimum tech's videos on the ncase m1(he a great resource in general for sff pc's) and aio's for more information but IIRC he got the best temps with the fans on the aio set to exhaust.
 

Sazexa

SFF Lingo Aficionado
Jan 22, 2020
136
165
If you're going to use an AIO in an NCase I'd do the following:

92mm exhaust fan, if you can fit it with the radiator. Might need a 92x15mm fan, but most 92x25 will fit. Set your two radiator fans to push air out of the side of the case. Bottom two 120mm's as intake.

The radiator will be a restriction on airflow exiting the case. The net between the two 120mm fans and 92mm fan exhausting air, compared tot he two 120mm intake fans, will be roughly equal airflow in and out. This will also let the air taken in from the bottom of the case vent over the motherboard VRM and heatsinks, and RAM lightly before exiting the case. Good convection air-flow.
 

DeToxin

Minimal Tinkerer
New User
Apr 4, 2019
4
0
Hello,

Waiting for AMD to announce their new stuffs next week, and waiting for stock on 3080s to normalize...
I haven't decided between the FE and the Asus TUF edition, glad they both barely fit.

I may replace the 3900x with the 5900x depending on pricing, performance, etc...

My main question is AIO/FAN orientation.
Does a side mounted AIO cause problems? Should the bottom fans be intake or exhaust?
Is there a diagram I can reference on this?

I'm open to your comments about the build as well.

The build I'm looking at is here:

PCPartPicker Part List: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/3zr2K4

CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 3900X 3.8 GHz 12-Core Processor ($429.99 @ Walmart)
CPU Cooler: Corsair iCUE H100i RGB PRO XT 75 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($119.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Asus ROG Strix X570-I Gaming Mini ITX AM4 Motherboard ($249.99 @ Walmart)
Memory: G.Skill Trident Z Neo 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory ($173.98 @ Newegg)
Storage: ADATA XPG SX8200 Pro 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive ($134.99 @ B&H)
Storage: ADATA XPG SX8200 Pro 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive ($134.99 @ B&H)
Video Card: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 10 GB Founders Edition Video Card ($699.00)
Power Supply: Corsair SF 750 W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully Modular SFX Power Supply ($321.00 @ Amazon)
Case Fan: Noctua A12x25 PWM 60.1 CFM 120 mm Fan ($32.06 @ Amazon)
Case Fan: Noctua A12x25 PWM 60.1 CFM 120 mm Fan ($32.06 @ Amazon)
Case Fan: Noctua A12x25 PWM 60.1 CFM 120 mm Fan ($32.06 @ Amazon)
Case Fan: Noctua A12x25 PWM 60.1 CFM 120 mm Fan ($32.06 @ Amazon)
Monitor: ViewSonic ELITE XG270QG 27.0" 2560x1440 165 Hz Monitor ($599.99 @ B&H)
Custom: Case - NCase M1 ($210.00)
Total: $3202.16
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-10-01 07:13 EDT-0400

Go on Reddit and look up the user m1af - they have done extensive testing for both air and water cooled setups in the M1 and have detailed build notes for both.
You should find pretty much every answer you need there (I just completed a build following their air cooled setup)