Yeah thanks for the writeup [USER=137]@lhl[/USER]
After [USER=4759]@Windfall[/USER] 's effort of finding the docs, I too realise this would need a big effort to get it as small as we'd imagine it to be. Ideally this board should have slanted so-dimms, more spread out i/o and one less ethernet port.
So I agree shoehorning this form factor to an ideal usff htpc is more effort than gains.
Looking at the manual, the fact that it has smbus, 8-bit gpio, tpm, auto power on jumper, all screams embedded display controller/digital kiosk application.
Comparing it to udoo bolt for example, it's 12x12, usb-c instead of dp, and m2 at the back, single ethernet all makes it more viable to go lower (albeit we still need vlp so-dimm which to be honest I've never seen before) in height. A laptop-style heatpipes and heatsink to the side looks possible too, with no ports nor headers on one side of the cpu.
And at the end of the day pricing is king, which is also the case with udoo bolt. They do cram alot in there (eMMC and arduino), great if you use it, but if not, well...
So for now, udoo bolt is a better option imo, I hope they met their shipping at end of year and hit retail then.
Edit: one thing of concern though; the spec page only lists ddr4-2400, since zen performs better with higher ram speed, does this mean the board is crippled?
