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I mean, this happens every time, right? Especially when something has been on the market for longer than is typical (As Maxwell has), you should pretty much expect a big leap for the next generation of silicon.

I generally don't empathize with people complaining that companies are releasing upgrades that are too substantial or too quick (talk about a first world problem). And anyone even passively paying attention would have seen the many signs that updates to the 970 and 980 were coming $:\$

If AMD wasn't anticipating the 1070/1080, I'm worried. Moving a launch date forward 4+ months, when it's less than a year out, is not something you do when you think you're competitive.

AMD's own language suggests that Polaris is going to be the bottom segment of the discrete graphics market, so there's no reason to expect otherwise. Whether or not that means they'll release a part that's in the vicinity of the 1070 performance-wise is the real question - them suggesting "affordable VR" makes me excited, but we can only wait and see for now.

The efficiency of the parts will be interesting, as well. One thing AMD could do that would be really exciting is to have as many of the cards as possible be powered via PCI alone - the segment and price point make that feasible, and the demand's there for sure.

<blockquote data-quote="PlayfulPhoenix" data-source="post: 11957" data-attributes="member: 7">I mean, this happens every time, right? Especially when something has been on the market for longer than is typical (As Maxwell has), you should pretty much expect a big leap for the next generation of silicon.I generally don't empathize with people complaining that companies are releasing upgrades that are too substantial or too quick (talk about a first world problem). And anyone even passively paying attention would have seen the many signs that updates to the 970 and 980 were coming <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite106" alt=":\" title="Unsure&nbsp; &nbsp; :\" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":\" />If AMD wasn't anticipating the 1070/1080, I'm worried. Moving a launch date forward 4+ months, when it's less than a year out, is not something you do when you think you're competitive.AMD's own language suggests that Polaris is going to be the bottom segment of the discrete graphics market, so there's no reason to expect otherwise. Whether or not that means they'll release a part that's in the vicinity of the 1070 performance-wise is the real question - them suggesting &quot;affordable VR&quot; makes me excited, but we can only wait and see for now.The efficiency of the parts will be interesting, as well. One thing AMD could do that would be really exciting is to have as many of the cards as possible be powered via PCI alone - the segment and price point make that feasible, and the demand's there for sure.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="PlayfulPhoenix, post: 11957, member: 7"] I mean, this happens every time, right? Especially when something has been on the market for longer than is typical (As Maxwell has), you should pretty much expect a big leap for the next generation of silicon. I generally don't empathize with people complaining that companies are releasing upgrades that are too substantial or too quick (talk about a first world problem). And anyone even passively paying attention would have seen the many signs that updates to the 970 and 980 were coming :\ If AMD wasn't anticipating the 1070/1080, I'm worried. Moving a launch date forward 4+ months, when it's less than a year out, is not something you do when you think you're competitive. AMD's own language suggests that Polaris is going to be the bottom segment of the discrete graphics market, so there's no reason to expect otherwise. Whether or not that means they'll release a part that's in the vicinity of the 1070 performance-wise is the real question - them suggesting "affordable VR" makes me excited, but we can only wait and see for now. The efficiency of the parts will be interesting, as well. One thing AMD could do that would be [I]really [/I]exciting is to have as many of the cards as possible be powered via PCI alone - the segment and price point make that feasible, and the demand's there for sure. [/QUOTE]

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