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I have an impression that people around here,  order first and ask questions later ; the forums (not necessarily this thread) are full of " this doesn't fit here, can it push-pull there, etc" and then end up piling up pc cases in their basements. Don't get me  wrong. I am also the type of guy who would switch cases twice a year if i could afford.  Eventually i had to order from another manufacturer. I wish the ncase were available these couple of months, especially the silver one