SFF.Network Lenovo shows off the tiny ThinkStation P320 Tiny
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I've always liked the look of these, professional but not boring. I know almost nothing about Quaddro cards but I assume this is a very low powered one, where would it compare to the gaming GPUs? Looking at the pictures it seems to be a single slot half height card rather than mxm, I wonder if you could swap it out for something more gaming friendly.
The Quadro included in the 320 Tiny is a Quadro P600 - based on nVidia's GP107 core. The GP107 is the core the GTX1050 is based on, however the P600 has a 384:24:16 core config (similar to the GTX1030) versus the 1050's 640:40:32. Both the 1050 and P600 run at 1354 core clock though.
From anadtech. Custom IO faceplate for the P600. Interesting
Interesting. Almost looks like you could swap in a P1000 if the thermals and power work out. Probably wouldn't be best for gaming though. I had a K1200 from an old workstation in my htpc for a bit that could game decently well (based on the 750 chip), but it had chronic problems with dropped frames, probably due to un-optimized drivers. Swapped it out for a GT1030 and solved those problems.
Yes I meant the GT1030 (off topic, but it's a pain in the arse that everything apart from the bottom 1-2 nVidia SKUs are GTX, and the lowest ones are different :|
On another note, Quadro drivers are designed for CAD and GPGPU apps rather than gaming, so your experience may suffer as a result
I have only one question: can it be used as a competent 4K htpc (including hdcp2.2 protected content) by using a club3D dp to hdmi 2.0 adapter?
Otherwise, awesome little machine.
7700T + "gt 1030" sounds like the last office/browsing/media pc you will ever need
Can even be fitted with an optical drive piggyback addon, making it probably the smallest machine ever conceived with both discrete gpu and ODD.
Otherwise, awesome little machine.
7700T + "gt 1030" sounds like the last office/browsing/media pc you will ever need
Can even be fitted with an optical drive piggyback addon, making it probably the smallest machine ever conceived with both discrete gpu and ODD.
Out of interest, do you have Path of exile ? I am desperately searching for reviews of the GT1030 running POE, but didn't find any.
I don't, but I'm pretty pleased with it. I can play Rocket League at 60fps and 1080p with only a few settings turned down from Ultra, and anything more demanding I can in-home stream from my main computer. Path of Exile seems like it might be a little less demanding than Rocket League from what I can tell. Benchmarks seem to almost exactly match a GTX 750 (non-Ti). A 1050 or RX 460 would give more bang for the buck, but the passive model I picked up from MSI is silent, low profile, and has a single slot bracket, all of which I wanted.
If you get one, definitely overclock the memory and tune in the core clock and voltages. The memory overclock had a big effect, probably due to its low memory bandwidth. The core clock was a little tricky to get right on the passive model without a case fan. The power limit couldn't be increased, and it was hitting the power limit at stock under full load. It would also eventually start downclocking its boost clock as it approached the temperature limit, even if it hadn't yet hit the limit (some kind of GPU boost 3.0 thing I suppose). I had to dial in a core overclock then undervolt everything past ~1.0 V to lock it at that frequency to get a stable boost clock that wouldn't downclock itself. Getting all of this right took time, but it was worth it. That and the memory overclock gave me a solid 15-20% improvement in benchmarks. A model with a fan or better case airflow would probably be more straightforward to overclock, but I was being a bit of a freak about silence with that build.
We've come so far consolidating I/O interfaces to USB and display interfaces to HDMI/DP, if only we could get a computer with nothing but ~10 USB-C connectors. One for power (since it can do up to 100W), then a mix and match of displays and devices however you see fit. It is a dream of mine.
Back to this machine: so would it perform close to a GT1030 in games? Would it be possible to install one? This looks like a hell of a travel machine and the RX 460 I have in my desktop is only 50% faster than the 1030 so I guess I will live.
I can't readily name any other machine that is barely bigger than an ITX board, less than 4cm thick and has a discrete GPU.
I can't readily name any other machine that is barely bigger than an ITX board, less than 4cm thick and has a discrete GPU.
Buying this workstation (where you're also paying for the Pro certifications and the support for six displays) for the sole purpose of playing games seems a bit of a stretch, considering that a ZBOX-EN1060K (6.35cm thick) sports a gtx 1060...
But I understand the sheer awesomeness of putting such a small system in a bag. (and its 135W psu and a keyboard and a mouse)
I think it is more: "can it run games at gt1030 level in addition to being a pro rig ?"
Being a certified workstation with the ability to run light games on the occasion is nice.
Of course, getting pro grade components only for gaming would be .... Pointless
Being a certified workstation with the ability to run light games on the occasion is nice.
Of course, getting pro grade components only for gaming would be .... Pointless
If your goal is to have portable light gaming, this machine beats even weight and size wise gaming laptops which I believe is the first. The EN1060K is 7 pounds! That's too much. The Aorus X3 Plus v6 is four pounds. This thing being less than three pounds is a major plus. I do not need an 1060. My desktop runs an RX 460 and that's aplenty for me.
Paying for pro cert might be a waste but remind me how can I get a three pound Pascal anywhere else? The only question is, how slow this Pascal is.
Paying for pro cert might be a waste but remind me how can I get a three pound Pascal anywhere else? The only question is, how slow this Pascal is.
Yes, http://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Nvidia-GTX-750-vs-Nvidia-GT-1030/3162vsm283726 reports the GT 1030 to be same as a 750 which is OK by me but the P600 and games? I can't find a benchmark 
