[USER=9]@dondan[/USER] - love your work but sanity check here
- C4 is losing is original soul from being the most space efficient sandwich-style case with 24 cm AIO support to trying to be the most versatile jack of all trade master of none mini-itx case.
- Designing sub 10L ITX case is about taking design decisions for thermals, acoustics and perhaps esthetics in the most space efficient design. Find the best solution and will be a success even if that means restrictions on components. (wink 24cm AIO exhaust at top of case)
- The problem by listening all the comments is that they 80% of them is about adding more "edge use cases" for more versatility, which at one point defeats the original purpose. There is no point adding support for subpar cooling options at the cost of space efficiency. If they don't need a 24cm AIO, they can just buy the excellent A4-SFX with a cpu air cooler
- Saden me but i guess now the top contender for the original C4 concept is the FormD T1
Excellent comments from caesiem and notional originaly on hardforum
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I really like the original idea of the C4: An A4 with 24cm AIO support, pcb PCI extension and a slim small frame. With the classic layout, the case gets too fat/wide and ends up with a layout too similar to the NCase M1. To me, the C4 was brilliant, because it was right inbetween the A4 and M1. The new layout just seems like a different M1.
Also, I will have my case on the right side, with the GPU facing left. And I prefer the radiator on top for proper exhaust, creating that nice windtunnel effect throughout the case.
I think AMD Navi and enough RTX 2080/ti cards are 2-2½ slots to keep it as it is. I know it makes it more difficult with RTX 2080ti's with good coolers and having a glass panel to show it off at the same time, but SFF will always carry compromises. I just think people wanting/needing the classic layout would benefit more with the M1 anyways.
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this dual layout design doesn’t really make sense. It’s a design with greater complexity, increased cost to manufacture with very little reward - half a pcie slot. I would just say keep it so it’s only the 3-slot layout … but then it’s an NCASE M1. Different styling, slightly smaller but still an M1.
And that’s the greatest issue you’re designing for a problem which already has a solution. For a 3 slot gpu, 240mm rad, m-itx mobo and sfx psu the optimum layout and size is an NCASE M1.
I would say to stick with your original design concept, and just accept that whatever you do some people will be disappointed.
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