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thanks [USER=9]@dondan[/USER] at least it will fit inside the case unlike the zotac amp :).  i'm happy to space the side panel as thats a fairly simple mod in comparison to my previous options.  Will the H20 be any wider by chance or are you planing on having the new C4 or B4 be the big-card option?  Are you at all thinking of doing a slide-in style case similar to the Jonsbo V8 etc?