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GPU X570 MSI mini-ITX
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They never did offer a X470 itx only the B450, they might do the same again.
Wasn't MSI's CEO the one who essentially dismissed Ryzen as irrelevant a couple of years ago (as in "Intel's better anyway"), but is now suddenly talking about how AMD is a dramatically different company than a few years back and how Ryzen is fantastic? That jives pretty well with both not bothering with (relatively) low-volume SKUs like high-end ITX, but also that they might be changing their tune. Might still be too late to see X570 ITX from them, though.
Meh, MSI put out the larger form factor x570 in a timely manner but I think they have correctly judged x570 to not be an SFF friendly/necessary product judging by all the whining about other x570 itx mobos. B450 gets MSI to the next node "OK" for SFF/itx. Coming from a P8Z77i mobo X570 mobos look like a repeat of a bad cocept.
I am not privy to "all the whining" and not sure why the X570 would be a bad concept or not SFF friendly. I see no issues with what little there is known about about the upcoming offerings. The PCIe 4.0 is great for NVMe drives and it offers this (so called) future proofing I see people endlessly talk about. Especially with regard to future GPUs.
Hey Dazr. I don't think the heatsink will be an issue.
If you look at the standoff holes, they are still going to go to the PCB, not the heatsink. The only issue might be if they supply taller than normal standoffs (don't think that's very likely) or if the PCB is actually much thicker than usual. There is a chance that it will be thicker (higher quality + more layers to the PCB this generation) but I doubt it's enough to make or break the low profile coolers. Maybe fan ducts will need to be adjusted if they were designed to be completely flush with the side panel?
In any case, I'll see if the gigabyte rep will respond to another question from me so that we don't have to wait for release to have our answer
If you look at the standoff holes, they are still going to go to the PCB, not the heatsink. The only issue might be if they supply taller than normal standoffs (don't think that's very likely) or if the PCB is actually much thicker than usual. There is a chance that it will be thicker (higher quality + more layers to the PCB this generation) but I doubt it's enough to make or break the low profile coolers. Maybe fan ducts will need to be adjusted if they were designed to be completely flush with the side panel?
In any case, I'll see if the gigabyte rep will respond to another question from me so that we don't have to wait for release to have our answer
Ah true, I didn't think of the standoffs. Tho hopefully the PCB thickness isn't too much thicker. There's 48mm of clearance and the black ridge clears at 47mm I'm fairly sure lolHey Dazr. I don't think the heatsink will be an issue.
If you look at the standoff holes, they are still going to go to the PCB, not the heatsink. The only issue might be if they supply taller than normal standoffs (don't think that's very likely) or if the PCB is actually much thicker than usual. There is a chance that it will be thicker (higher quality + more layers to the PCB this generation) but I doubt it's enough to make or break the low profile coolers. Maybe fan ducts will need to be adjusted if they were designed to be completely flush with the side panel?
In any case, I'll see if the gigabyte rep will respond to another question from me so that we don't have to wait for release to have our answer
Remember, maintaining ATX compatibility means that the I/O shield and PCIe slots need to be in the same place no matter what, which means relatively little wiggle room in these terms. Also, thick (I've heard of 11-layer, might be more with some boards?) server and HEDT boards maintain compliance just fine. The extra motherboard layers will of course add some height, but far less than 1mm unless they've gone completely bonkers with the board design. On the other hand, attaching the standoffs to the cooling backplate and not the board would break ATX compatibility entirely. So, in short, there shouldn't be any need to worry. It'll be a tighter fit, yes, but mainly from previously empty space around and behind stuff now being filled in.
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Ah cool, yeah that makes more sense now. Thanks for that ?
I was yacking the other day and someone was saying there seems to be loads of X570 motherboards slated for release (too many). To be honest I said I don’t know because I won’t be buying one I think (I have no use case and they are going to have fans and be expensive). But I did say I thought it might be a case of manufacturers launching as many as they can in the hope one ‘sticks’ because if you win the first round with a X570 board you can bask in some sunshine for a while in a wider Ryzen sense. Given the potential profits it is worth the gamble on releasing so many motherboards because they are premium boards and a lot of people will bite?
At the same time there don’t seem to be many ITX boards? You’d think, if my logic was correct, that a few manufacturers would be aiming to ‘win’ the ITX X570 title.
At the same time there don’t seem to be many ITX boards? You’d think, if my logic was correct, that a few manufacturers would be aiming to ‘win’ the ITX X570 title.
News - AMD X570 ITX Motherboards
So we have 1 confirmed so far: The Crosshair VIII Impact is the ITX variant. I'm hoping here that Asus think Zen 2 is amazing enough to revive Enthusiast class Impact boards and not offer us neutered versions like the Strix garbage they've been peddling for the last few years! B550 boards...
smallformfactor.net
Two Asus boards, one Asrock and one Gigabyte is all that's being offered. Lets not derail this guy's thread further though with talk of other boards. I've linked the above the thread for that
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