Production Modultra LOBO: Direct die kit gauging interest.
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Is that necessary when it's not on the cold plate though? The thermal contact between the cold plate and pump housing is minimal after all (a thin band of metal around the edge, with an o-ring potentially keeping them spaced apart). The only benefit of this would be to more effectively transfer heat from the fluid to the block, which ... well, I don't think has much benefit - given the lack of surface area that block will be about the same temperature as the water pretty quickly regardless, and it won't be helping much in terms of dissipation.
I would agree with @JDuval on some fun colors being a bonus, but I don't see any in the Elite range that I'm particularly fond of. A deep teal or dark purple or something would be right up my alley though (like H-217, H349). Still, in lieu of that, any middle gray would my choice, and the E-250 (or E-160 Concrete) look very good. The amount of American flag-painted assault rifles (or otherwise nationalist-blinged out guns) on the cerakote site did kind of put me off, but I guess that's neither here nor there.
I'll change my votes to a dark purple or deep teal lol. I only looked at the first page that the link dumped onto but those other options sound nice.
Received four of the parts from the painter yesterday. Half of them have paint defects, so it looks like I need to find another painter. Anyway, here are some photos of the titanium (E-250) and carbon grey (E-240). If anybody wants to look at possible colors for these, go to the following link to see the available hues from Cerakote. We are going to be using their Elite series paints due to its high level of corrosion resistance and durability. Most likely we would only offer 3 or 4 of these colors since they would need be painted in batches.
CERAKOTE® Elite Series Coatings & Cerakote Swatch Samples
See our complete collection of Elite Series Cerakote products. Shop by product series, unique coating attributes or application types.www.cerakote.com
The mounting hardware I show in the photos is not very user friendly so I am redesigning it today. As soon as this is done I will be shipping a few of the betas.
These look so good. They def stand out in a way that's unique but still understated. They just enhance the look of the matte black feature of the board.
Which has no bearing on the topic of cerakoting this CPU water block.
Since you brought it up, I would enjoy an Armalite Rifle (not assault rifle) shaped/themed CPU or GPU water block with old Red, White and Blue. GPU block might work better, more with which to work.
An idea for those who know how?
I didn't see the relevancy of mentioning cerakote colors/schemes being displayed in a way that, "put you off." The point is simply to view the colors and schemes available and how the end product can look.
It's off topic for either of us to discuss further. No offense was intended in any part.
Looking forward the realization of this project and seeing performance results.
Did some thermal testing today with the LOBO and Barrow pump block on my setup. Testing was done on the bench no chassis. And yes that is a Starbucks Frappuccino reservoir.
The LOBO out performed the Barrow by around 9-10 Degrees on both tests. This is no surprise since the flow rate of the barrow was much lower due to its restrictive design. Test show that the LOBO had better performance at a lower flow rate than the Barrow. This means that not only is the pumping efficiency better, the cold plate design is more efficient as well. So I think this test shows the capability of the LOBO in a low restriction loop. However I think the LOBO may shine better in a higher restriction loop due to the pumping efficiency.
Test Rig
Test : Cinbench R23 Multi core. Each test was two consecutive 30 minute runs, data is from the last 5 minutes of second run.
Cpu: Intel I9 11900K
Thermal paste: Halnziye.
Motherboard: Asus Rog Stix X590-I LGA 1200
Memory: G.Skill Trident 16gb DDR4 4600
HDD: Samsung 980 m.2 2280 1tb
Radiator: Alphacool ST30 V2 240 X 120mm
Tubing: 1.5 meters of 10mm soft tube
Radiator fans: 2x Noctua NF-A12X25 PWM 2000 rpm
Cpu block: Test1 and 2 = LOBO with Laing DDC 3.1
Test 3 and 4= Barrow LTPRP-04 with Laing DDC 3.1
Test 1 Modultra LOBO cpu block with Laing DDC 3.1 pump. 100% fan and pump speed
Test 2 Modultra LOBO cpu block with Laing DDC 3.1 pump. 60% pump and fan speed.
Test 3 Barrow LTPRP-04 cpu block with Laing DDC 3.1 pump. 100% fan and pump speed
Test 4 Barrow LTPRP-04 cpu block with Laing DDC 3.1 pump. 60% pump and fan speed.
The LOBO out performed the Barrow by around 9-10 Degrees on both tests. This is no surprise since the flow rate of the barrow was much lower due to its restrictive design. Test show that the LOBO had better performance at a lower flow rate than the Barrow. This means that not only is the pumping efficiency better, the cold plate design is more efficient as well. So I think this test shows the capability of the LOBO in a low restriction loop. However I think the LOBO may shine better in a higher restriction loop due to the pumping efficiency.
Test Rig
Test : Cinbench R23 Multi core. Each test was two consecutive 30 minute runs, data is from the last 5 minutes of second run.
Cpu: Intel I9 11900K
Thermal paste: Halnziye.
Motherboard: Asus Rog Stix X590-I LGA 1200
Memory: G.Skill Trident 16gb DDR4 4600
HDD: Samsung 980 m.2 2280 1tb
Radiator: Alphacool ST30 V2 240 X 120mm
Tubing: 1.5 meters of 10mm soft tube
Radiator fans: 2x Noctua NF-A12X25 PWM 2000 rpm
Cpu block: Test1 and 2 = LOBO with Laing DDC 3.1
Test 3 and 4= Barrow LTPRP-04 with Laing DDC 3.1
Test 1 Modultra LOBO cpu block with Laing DDC 3.1 pump. 100% fan and pump speed
| Radiator fan speed | 2080 | rpm | ||
| Pump speed | 4400 | rpm | ||
| Average cpu load | 187 watts | watts | ||
| Average coolant flow | 1.9 | Gpm | 7.19 | Liter/min |
| Average CPU temp | 60 | C |
Test 2 Modultra LOBO cpu block with Laing DDC 3.1 pump. 60% pump and fan speed.
| Radiator fan speed | 1140 | rpm | ||
| Pump speed | 2420 | rpm | ||
| Average cpu load | 191 | watts | ||
| Average coolant flow | 1.05 | Gpm | 3.97 | Liter/min |
| Average CPU temp | 66 | C |
Test 3 Barrow LTPRP-04 cpu block with Laing DDC 3.1 pump. 100% fan and pump speed
| Radiator fan speed | 2070 | rpm | ||
| Pump speed | 4455 | rpm | ||
| Average cpu load | 191 | watts | ||
| Average coolant flow | 1.25 | Gpm | 4.73 | Liter/min |
| Average CPU temp | 70 | C |
Test 4 Barrow LTPRP-04 cpu block with Laing DDC 3.1 pump. 60% pump and fan speed.
| Radiator fan speed | 1150 | rpm | |
| Pump speed | 2532-4313 | rpm | |
| Average cpu load | 194 | watts | |
| Average coolant flow | .65-1.25 | Gpm | Pump pulsing due to thermal failsafe. |
| Average CPU temp | 75+ | C | |
| System crash @ 22 minutes. |
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Not gonna lie, I immediately scrolled past everything to see the Starbucks reservoirDid some thermal testing today with the LOBO and Barrow pump block on my setup. Testing was done on the bench no chassis. And yes that is a Starbucks Frappuccino reservoir.
The LOBO out performed the Barrow by around 9-10 Degrees on both tests. This is no surprise since the flow rate of the barrow was much lower due to its restrictive design. Test show that the LOBO had better performance at a lower flow rate than the Barrow. This means that not only is the pumping efficiency better, the cold plate design is more efficient as well. So I think this test shows the capability of the LOBO in a low restriction loop. However I think the LOBO may shine better in a higher restriction loop due to the pumping efficiency.
Test Rig
Test : Cinbench R23 Multi core. Each test was two consecutive 30 minute runs, data is from the last 5 minutes of second run.
Cpu: Intel I9 11900K
Thermal paste: Halnziye.
Motherboard: Asus Rog Stix X590-I LGA 1200
Memory: G.Skill Trident 16gb DDR4 4600
HDD: Samsung 980 m.2 2280 1tb
Radiator: Alphacool ST30 V2 240 X 120mm
Tubing: 1.5 meters of 10mm soft tube
Radiator fans: 2x Noctua NF-A12X25 PWM 2000 rpm
Cpu block: Test1 and 2 = LOBO with Laing DDC 3.1
Test 3 and 4= Barrow LTPRP-04 with Laing DDC 3.1
Test 1 Modultra LOBO cpu block with Laing DDC 3.1 pump. 100% fan and pump speed
Radiator fan speed 2080 rpm Pump speed 4400 rpm Average cpu load 187 watts watts Average coolant flow 1.9 Gpm Liter/min Average CPU temp 60 C
Test 2 Modultra LOBO cpu block with Laing DDC 3.1 pump. 60% pump and fan speed.
Radiator fan speed 1140 rpm Pump speed 2420 rpm Average cpu load 191 watts Average coolant flow 1.05 Gpm Liter/min Average CPU temp 66 C
Test 3 Barrow LTPRP-04 cpu block with Laing DDC 3.1 pump. 100% fan and pump speed
Radiator fan speed 2070 rpm Pump speed 4455 rpm Average cpu load 191 watts Average coolant flow 1.25 Gpm Liter/min Average CPU temp 70 C
Test 4 Barrow LTPRP-04 cpu block with Laing DDC 3.1 pump. 60% pump and fan speed.
Radiator fan speed 1150 rpm Pump speed 2532-4313 rpm Average cpu load 194 watts Average coolant flow .65-1.25 Gpm Pump pulsing due to thermal failsafe. Average CPU temp 75+ C System crash @ 22 minutes.
@JDuval your unit is ready to ship, do you care what color you get?
Which low profile block would that be? There are several on the market. If you have had a poor experience, I hope you shared that with the maker and it could help to share it here on SFFF. I personally don't want to buy a poor product out of ignorance. A lot of specialty products don't have reviews or user write-ups.
I've heard poor reviews of the nouvolo aquanaut, perhaps that's the shade being thrown. I have yet to hear anything about the aquanaut pro, hopefully it's better reviewed
Reference is to a taobao combo block not the aquanaut. I hear the new aquanaut is better however.
I have the aquanaut and aquanaut extreme. I did some testing with them on my work bench back to back, along with my apogee drive II. Those results are posted over on the aquanaut thread. Whenever I get my hands on a lobo, I’ll run the same tests again, so there will be some data to compare.
I hope so. I just bought an Aquanaut Extreme after seeing some good press.
I searched for information about the AQ Extreme here at SFFF and found the thread. I read through it. Unless I was sleep reading, I didn't notice any indication of a poor product, so I bought it.
Thank you two. I will move on so to not derail this topic.
