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Am glad to see others are onboard with the principles. I have been working out how to do a smaller Thermaltek P3 for MATX and dual rad build. So far I have only done a quick layout idea and got comparisons to the P3 & P5 in the model (there isn't an existing P3 model so I used the P5 and just scaled to match the dimensions).However by using the SFX power supply size it has allowed for much thicker rads (54mm thick + push fans) and for it to include 240 + 360mm RAD with xfire GPU in a smaller size than the P3 and I can probably shave some more off it. I mean I could certainly loose another 2cm in both directions using a more traditional 34mm thick rad.We are currently talking about 424x397x200mm at this time (HxW) which compared to the P3 which comes in at 476x470x221 (without feet as will be wall mounted).But yeah we can only go smaller by pushing for smaller. Or more custom where people such as Asus, Gigabyte & MSI who produce cards and mobo's start to make custom PCB's with graphics onboard in a different form factor rather than a rectangle.As much as I dislike what Apple do and the fact they are going to be more standard form factor next year the mac pro dustbin has some very clever design points that instead of being thrown away should be built upon to get others on board.Case manufactures should start to look to work in partnership with Seasonic and Superflower and build cases where the powersupply is part of the construction. We know even when pushing the envlope on small form factor builds with sli/xfire we are not going to be pushing past 800 watt so target that heavy to cover all builds and why not make a PSU that is only 30/40mm tall built into the PSU shroud as such so it can be 220mm long and however wide the case is and make the base of the case as such.
Am glad to see others are onboard with the principles. I have been working out how to do a smaller Thermaltek P3 for MATX and dual rad build. So far I have only done a quick layout idea and got comparisons to the P3 & P5 in the model (there isn't an existing P3 model so I used the P5 and just scaled to match the dimensions).
However by using the SFX power supply size it has allowed for much thicker rads (54mm thick + push fans) and for it to include 240 + 360mm RAD with xfire GPU in a smaller size than the P3 and I can probably shave some more off it. I mean I could certainly loose another 2cm in both directions using a more traditional 34mm thick rad.
We are currently talking about 424x397x200mm at this time (HxW) which compared to the P3 which comes in at 476x470x221 (without feet as will be wall mounted).
But yeah we can only go smaller by pushing for smaller. Or more custom where people such as Asus, Gigabyte & MSI who produce cards and mobo's start to make custom PCB's with graphics onboard in a different form factor rather than a rectangle.
As much as I dislike what Apple do and the fact they are going to be more standard form factor next year the mac pro dustbin has some very clever design points that instead of being thrown away should be built upon to get others on board.
Case manufactures should start to look to work in partnership with Seasonic and Superflower and build cases where the powersupply is part of the construction. We know even when pushing the envlope on small form factor builds with sli/xfire we are not going to be pushing past 800 watt so target that heavy to cover all builds and why not make a PSU that is only 30/40mm tall built into the PSU shroud as such so it can be 220mm long and however wide the case is and make the base of the case as such.
