Cooling PSA: Blackridge seems to be dead for AM5

[wertzius]

I got the confirmation today from EKL: Blackridge is not AM5 compatible and there are no plans for an AM5 kit.
RIP i guess.

Maybe someone finds a solution (i will have a look on the coming Noctua AM5 kit).
Der8auer also seems to develop a shortened backplate for AM5 - in that case it might be possible to remove the original backplate and to fit the Blackridge with the original or slightly longer screws into the mounting holes.

 

[SKYMTL]

I can confirm this. Like a lot of low profile cooler manufacturers, this would need retooling of the cooler itself.

Its also why some (ID Cooling for example) are taking the opportunity to roll out AM5 compatible coolers like the IS-55 that have the necessary mounts while also improving the cooler itself.

 

[AURMEND]

Well shit, what's the problem with fitment. I can probably make something for the black ridge

 

[Analogue Blacksheep]

I feel like the Blackridge needs a viking funeral or something. Was a game changer for SFF.

 

[wertzius]

Well shit, what's the problem with fitment. I can probably make something for the black ridge

The Blackridge gets fitted just with screws from the mainboard backside. AM5 has a backplate and there are now not just holes in the mainboard but threads in the backplate. So most likely the screws are too short and do not fit through the threads from the backside.

84000000156-Manual-Black-Ridge-16-08-2022 (alpenfoehn.de)

 

[GuilleAcoustic]

The Blackridge gets fitted just with screws from the mainboard backside. AM5 has a backplate and there are now not just holes in the mainboard but threads in the backplate. So most likely the screws are too short and do not fit through the threads from the backside.

84000000156-Manual-Black-Ridge-16-08-2022 (alpenfoehn.de)

And you can't just remove the backplate because the CPU retention system is also screwed to the backplate :|

 

[wingerie]

Well shit, what's the problem with fitment. I can probably make something for the black ridge

I see two ways one can make it compatible:
1. Custom legs for Black Ridge that will be compatible with official backplate screws;
2. Custom backplate that will support both retention mechanism mount and let us screw from the back side, this should allow mounting of any sff cooler out there.

 

[wertzius]

@GuilleAcoustic @wingerie

Seems that Thermalright will solve the problem: AM5 Secure Frame RED – 索摩樂 Thermalright
The Backplate can be removed and the Blackridge (and other AM4 coolers with backplate) will fit - theoretically. I will try it!
I hope the screws are included - the screws on the retention module cannot be removed.

 

[GuilleAcoustic]

That thing goes to the front and replaces the whole CPU retention system, not the backplate. Unless you have to remove the whole backplate to use it (but I didn't find any picture nor manual).

 

[wertzius]

The retention module holds the backplate - if you remove the cpu cooler brackets the backplate can be removed or replaced by another that fits (might be also be taped with double sided tape) and allows older coolers. We will see.

Here is a video from der8auer - he already removed both: Ryzen 7000 Delidding - Unreal Temperature improvement with Direct-Die Cooling - YouTube

 

[GuilleAcoustic]

The retention module holds the backplate - if you remove the cpu cooler brackets the backplate can be removed or replaced by another that fits (might be also be taped with double sided tape) and allows older coolers. We will see.

Here is a video from der8auer - he already removed both: Ryzen 7000 Delidding - Unreal Temperature improvement with Direct-Die Cooling - YouTube

You still need a backplate to screw that secure frame onto...

 

[Legion]

The retention module holds the backplate - if you remove the cpu cooler brackets the backplate can be removed or replaced by another that fits (might be also be taped with double sided tape) and allows older coolers. We will see.

Here is a video from der8auer - he already removed both: Ryzen 7000 Delidding - Unreal Temperature improvement with Direct-Die Cooling - YouTube

Just dump the Blackridge and use another that does fit !!!
I went through the same crap trying to get bars for an Alderlake build, they have no interest in further supporting it. It's just not a profitable cooler for them and they want it to slip quietly away !!!

The Thermalright frame Does "NOT" come with a replacement backplate, that's not the purpose of it (to completely replace the whole mechanism)

I'm sorry if this sound harsh here, it's just a reallity check.
You want to keep using the Blackridge, we get it.
Fact is it's dead, forget it and move on lol

 

[Rysen]

Just dump the Blackridge and use another that does fit !!!
I went through the same crap trying to get bars for an Alderlake build, they have no interest in further supporting it. It's just not a profitable cooler for them and they want it to slip quietly away !!!

The Thermalright frame Does "NOT" come with a replacement backplate, that's not the purpose of it (to completely replace the whole mechanism)

I'm sorry if this sound harsh here, it's just a reallity check.
You want to keep using the Blackridge, we get it.
Fact is it's dead, forget it and move on lol

I disagree. SFF is about making it work when it seems like it won't. I got the black ridge cooling my 7900x in Zaber Sentry 1.0 . The temperatures are acceptable for me running on ECO Mode.

A quick Cinebench Test shows acceptable results for me:

Better than 5950x is good enough for me. Edit: I manage to get a higher score without ECO mode. Around 11300

I flipped the AM5 brackets and screw them from the the back of the motherboard by applying pressure down on the brackets until the screw went in. It takes time and is not easy but sff is not about being easy is about making it work at a reasonable price.

 

[wertzius]

Could you elaborate a little more on that? What did you flip exactly?

 

[k0n]

Why not just use the stock backplate? The threads are "6-32 SAE?" from what I found... ~3.33mm hole to get your M3 screw thru plate and board onto your cooler mount.

 

[wertzius]

The original screws should be just too short - the AM5 socket is higher - i will evaluate the options, my board should arrive end of the week.

 

[k0n]

The original screws should be just too short -

Yes, different screws but should be M3 and easy to find.

 

[Rysen]

Could you elaborate a little more on that? What did you flip exactly?

Yes you have to get screws that are long enough. Screw them through the backplate and into the flipped AM4 brackets.

 

[Josiah.Jones]

I disagree. SFF is about making it work when it seems like it won't. I got the black ridge cooling my 7900x in Zaber Sentry 1.0 . The temperatures are acceptable for me running on ECO Mode.

A quick Cinebench Test shows acceptable results for me:

Better than 5950x is good enough for me. Edit: I manage to get a higher score without ECO mode. Around 11300

I flipped the AM5 brackets and screw them from the the back of the motherboard by applying pressure down on the brackets until the screw went in. It takes time and is not easy but sff is not about being easy is about making it work at a reasonable price.

I disagree. SFF is about making it work when it seems like it won't. I got the black ridge cooling my 7900x in Zaber Sentry 1.0 . The temperatures are acceptable for me running on ECO Mode.

A quick Cinebench Test shows acceptable results for me:

Better than 5950x is good enough for me. Edit: I manage to get a higher score without ECO mode. Around 11300

I flipped the AM5 brackets and screw them from the the back of the motherboard by applying pressure down on the brackets until the screw went in. It takes time and is not easy but sff is not about being easy is about making it work at a reasonable price.

whats the name of the motherboard you used with the black ridge cooler

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will the msi mpg b650i motherboard fit with the blackridge cooler like the asrock b650e one or is there another option other than the one you used

 

[Rysen]

It was the asrock. Im unsure about the others.