Reply to thread

Message

I think things got confused. The things that do change the ranking is: (1) whether you use volume ^1.5 vs vol^1 or (2) perf*perf (ie perf^2) vs sqrt(perf*perf) (i.e perf)

Chinevo calculated "I think he meant (Volume in cm)^1.5 instead of (Volume in liters)^1.5 in original formula. In this case my result is 8635, guryhwa's is 6056, much closer to each other. Because Sub-1 numbers to the power of 1.5 have some anomaly" This is just a mental illusion.. the ratio 8635/6056 is the same as 2,730,735/1,915,262.

Whether you throw in mm^3 or L into even the Vol^1.5 Equation doesn't affect the ranking nor their ratios (i.e steepness of the ranking). As a sanity test to show it I ran the Vol^1.5 in both L and mm^3

Volume, L L^1.5 Old Formula Using Liter ^1.5 Ratio to next place Volume, mm^3 mm^3^1.5 (4.5) Old Formula Using mm^3 ^1.5 Ratio to next place
0.251 0.1257507495 2,730,735 1.4258 251000 125750749.5 273.0735 1.4258
2.69 4.4119280366 1,915,262 1.8602 2690000 4411928037 191.5262 1.8602
5 11.1803398875 1,029,622 1.3368 5000000 11180339887 102.9622 1.3368
1.45 1.7460312139 770,215 1.5282 1450000 1746031214 77.0215 1.5282
5 11.1803398875 504,016 1.2045 5000000 11180339887 50.4016 1.2045
4.35 9.0726443224 418,447 1.1181 4350000 9072644322 41.8447 1.1181
3.87 7.6131861267 374,245 1.3739 3870000 7613186127 37.4245 1.3739
1.45 1.7460312139 272,396 1.9190 1450000 1746031214 27.2396 1.9190
6.17 15.3259620579 141,943 1.0387 6170000 15325962058 14.1943 1.0387
1.57 1.9672043615 136,655 0.6121 1570000 1967204362 13.6655 0.6121
4.99 11.1468156439 223,244 1.9531 4990000 11146815644 22.3244 1.9531
2.18 3.2187314271 114,301 1.1127 2180000 3218731427 11.4301 1.1127
5.34 12.3399069689 102,726 0.9949 5340000 12339906969 10.2726 0.9949
2.06 2.9566562194 103,251 1.3993 2060000 2956656219 10.3251 1.3993
2.27 3.4200998523 73,787 1.0437 2270000 3420099852 7.3787 1.0437
3.96 7.8803005019 70,697 1.5988 3960000 7880300502 7.0697 1.5988
3.3 5.9947477011 44,219 0.8391 3300000 5994747701 4.4219 0.8391
4.2 8.6074386434 52,695 2.2176 4200000 8607438643 5.2695 2.2176
8.51 24.8252905522 23,763 1.6571 8510000 24825290552 2.3763 1.6571
5.67 13.5012689404 14,340 #DIV/0! 5670000 13501268940 1.4340 #DIV/0!

There's nothing funny going on near or below 1 in any formula (1.5 power or otherwise) that's giving the tiny builds a leg up, other than Chinevo's modded mini build just being actually a lot more space efficient (less cooling needed in that power regime/all chips integrated etc)

<blockquote data-quote="Steven" data-source="post: 288947" data-attributes="member: 37937">I think things got confused. The things that do change the ranking is: (1) whether you use volume ^1.5 vs vol^1 or (2) perf*perf (ie perf^2) vs sqrt(perf*perf) (i.e perf)Chinevo calculated &quot;I think he meant (Volume in cm)^1.5 instead of (Volume in liters)^1.5 in original formula. In this case my result is 8635, guryhwa's is 6056, much closer to each other. Because Sub-1 numbers to the power of 1.5 have some anomaly&quot; This is just a mental illusion.. the ratio 8635/6056 is the same as 2,730,735/1,915,262.Whether you throw in mm^3 or L into even the Vol^1.5 Equation doesn't affect the ranking nor their ratios (i.e steepness of the ranking). As a sanity test to show it I ran the Vol^1.5 in both L and mm^3<table style='width: 100%'><tr><td><table style='width: 100%'><tr><td>Volume, L</td><td>L^1.5</td><td>Old Formula Using Liter ^1.5</td><td>Ratio to next place</td><td>Volume, mm^3</td><td>mm^3^1.5 (4.5)</td><td>Old Formula Using mm^3 ^1.5</td><td>Ratio to next place</td></tr><tr><td>0.251</td><td>0.1257507495</td><td>2,730,735</td><td>1.4258</td><td>251000</td><td>125750749.5</td><td>273.0735</td><td>1.4258</td></tr><tr><td>2.69</td><td>4.4119280366</td><td>1,915,262</td><td>1.8602</td><td>2690000</td><td>4411928037</td><td>191.5262</td><td>1.8602</td></tr><tr><td>5</td><td>11.1803398875</td><td>1,029,622</td><td>1.3368</td><td>5000000</td><td>11180339887</td><td>102.9622</td><td>1.3368</td></tr><tr><td>1.45</td><td>1.7460312139</td><td>770,215</td><td>1.5282</td><td>1450000</td><td>1746031214</td><td>77.0215</td><td>1.5282</td></tr><tr><td>5</td><td>11.1803398875</td><td>504,016</td><td>1.2045</td><td>5000000</td><td>11180339887</td><td>50.4016</td><td>1.2045</td></tr><tr><td>4.35</td><td>9.0726443224</td><td>418,447</td><td>1.1181</td><td>4350000</td><td>9072644322</td><td>41.8447</td><td>1.1181</td></tr><tr><td>3.87</td><td>7.6131861267</td><td>374,245</td><td>1.3739</td><td>3870000</td><td>7613186127</td><td>37.4245</td><td>1.3739</td></tr><tr><td>1.45</td><td>1.7460312139</td><td>272,396</td><td>1.9190</td><td>1450000</td><td>1746031214</td><td>27.2396</td><td>1.9190</td></tr><tr><td>6.17</td><td>15.3259620579</td><td>141,943</td><td>1.0387</td><td>6170000</td><td>15325962058</td><td>14.1943</td><td>1.0387</td></tr><tr><td>1.57</td><td>1.9672043615</td><td>136,655</td><td>0.6121</td><td>1570000</td><td>1967204362</td><td>13.6655</td><td>0.6121</td></tr><tr><td>4.99</td><td>11.1468156439</td><td>223,244</td><td>1.9531</td><td>4990000</td><td>11146815644</td><td>22.3244</td><td>1.9531</td></tr><tr><td>2.18</td><td>3.2187314271</td><td>114,301</td><td>1.1127</td><td>2180000</td><td>3218731427</td><td>11.4301</td><td>1.1127</td></tr><tr><td>5.34</td><td>12.3399069689</td><td>102,726</td><td>0.9949</td><td>5340000</td><td>12339906969</td><td>10.2726</td><td>0.9949</td></tr><tr><td>2.06</td><td>2.9566562194</td><td>103,251</td><td>1.3993</td><td>2060000</td><td>2956656219</td><td>10.3251</td><td>1.3993</td></tr><tr><td>2.27</td><td>3.4200998523</td><td>73,787</td><td>1.0437</td><td>2270000</td><td>3420099852</td><td>7.3787</td><td>1.0437</td></tr><tr><td>3.96</td><td>7.8803005019</td><td>70,697</td><td>1.5988</td><td>3960000</td><td>7880300502</td><td>7.0697</td><td>1.5988</td></tr><tr><td>3.3</td><td>5.9947477011</td><td>44,219</td><td>0.8391</td><td>3300000</td><td>5994747701</td><td>4.4219</td><td>0.8391</td></tr><tr><td>4.2</td><td>8.6074386434</td><td>52,695</td><td>2.2176</td><td>4200000</td><td>8607438643</td><td>5.2695</td><td>2.2176</td></tr><tr><td>8.51</td><td>24.8252905522</td><td>23,763</td><td>1.6571</td><td>8510000</td><td>24825290552</td><td>2.3763</td><td>1.6571</td></tr><tr><td>5.67</td><td>13.5012689404</td><td>14,340</td><td>#DIV/0!</td><td>5670000</td><td>13501268940</td><td>1.4340</td><td>#DIV/0!</td></tr></table> 
</td><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr></table>There's nothing funny going on near or below 1 in any formula (1.5 power or otherwise) that's giving the tiny builds a leg up, other than Chinevo's modded mini build just being actually a lot more space efficient (less cooling needed in that power regime/all chips integrated etc)</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Steven, post: 288947, member: 37937"] I think things got confused. The things that do change the ranking is: [B][COLOR=rgb(204, 204, 204)][B](1)[/B][/COLOR][/B] whether you use [COLOR=rgb(65, 168, 95)]volume ^1.5[/COLOR] vs [COLOR=rgb(65, 168, 95)]vol^1[/COLOR] or [B](2)[/B] [COLOR=rgb(65, 168, 95)]perf*perf[/COLOR] (ie perf^2) vs [COLOR=rgb(65, 168, 95)]sqrt(perf*perf)[/COLOR] (i.e perf) Chinevo calculated "[I][COLOR=rgb(204, 204, 204)]I think he meant (Volume in cm)^1.5 instead of (Volume in liters)^1.5 in original formula. In this case my result is 8635, guryhwa's is 6056, [B]much closer to each other[/B]. Because Sub-1 numbers to the power of 1.5 have some anomaly[/COLOR][/I]" This is just a mental illusion.. the ratio [COLOR=rgb(65, 168, 95)]8635/6056[/COLOR] is the same as [COLOR=rgb(65, 168, 95)]2,730,735/1,915,262.[/COLOR] Whether you throw in [COLOR=rgb(65, 168, 95)]mm^3[/COLOR] or [COLOR=rgb(65, 168, 95)]L[/COLOR] into [B]even[/B] the [COLOR=rgb(65, 168, 95)]Vol^1.5[/COLOR] Equation doesn't affect the ranking nor their ratios (i.e steepness of the ranking). As a sanity test to show it I ran the [COLOR=rgb(65, 168, 95)]Vol^1.5[/COLOR] in both [COLOR=rgb(65, 168, 95)]L[/COLOR] and [COLOR=rgb(65, 168, 95)]mm^3[/COLOR] [TABLE] [TR] [TD][TABLE] [TR] [TD][B][COLOR=rgb(65, 168, 95)]Volume, L[/COLOR][/B][/TD] [TD][B][COLOR=rgb(65, 168, 95)]L^1.5[/COLOR][/B][/TD] [TD][B][COLOR=rgb(65, 168, 95)]Old Formula Using Liter ^1.5[/COLOR][/B][/TD] [TD][B][COLOR=rgb(65, 168, 95)]Ratio to next place[/COLOR][/B][/TD] [TD][B][COLOR=rgb(0, 168, 133)]Volume, mm^3[/COLOR][/B][/TD] [TD][B][COLOR=rgb(0, 168, 133)]mm^3^1.5 (4.5)[/COLOR][/B][/TD] [TD][B][COLOR=rgb(0, 168, 133)]Old Formula Using mm^3 ^1.5[/COLOR][/B][/TD] [TD][B][COLOR=rgb(0, 168, 133)]Ratio to next place[/COLOR][/B][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]0.251[/TD] [TD]0.1257507495[/TD] [TD]2,730,735[/TD] [TD]1.4258[/TD] [TD]251000[/TD] [TD]125750749.5[/TD] [TD]273.0735[/TD] [TD]1.4258[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]2.69[/TD] [TD]4.4119280366[/TD] [TD]1,915,262[/TD] [TD]1.8602[/TD] [TD]2690000[/TD] [TD]4411928037[/TD] [TD]191.5262[/TD] [TD]1.8602[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]5[/TD] [TD]11.1803398875[/TD] [TD]1,029,622[/TD] [TD]1.3368[/TD] [TD]5000000[/TD] [TD]11180339887[/TD] [TD]102.9622[/TD] [TD]1.3368[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]1.45[/TD] [TD]1.7460312139[/TD] [TD]770,215[/TD] [TD]1.5282[/TD] [TD]1450000[/TD] [TD]1746031214[/TD] [TD]77.0215[/TD] [TD]1.5282[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]5[/TD] [TD]11.1803398875[/TD] [TD]504,016[/TD] [TD]1.2045[/TD] [TD]5000000[/TD] [TD]11180339887[/TD] [TD]50.4016[/TD] [TD]1.2045[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]4.35[/TD] [TD]9.0726443224[/TD] [TD]418,447[/TD] [TD]1.1181[/TD] [TD]4350000[/TD] [TD]9072644322[/TD] [TD]41.8447[/TD] [TD]1.1181[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]3.87[/TD] [TD]7.6131861267[/TD] [TD]374,245[/TD] [TD]1.3739[/TD] [TD]3870000[/TD] [TD]7613186127[/TD] [TD]37.4245[/TD] [TD]1.3739[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]1.45[/TD] [TD]1.7460312139[/TD] [TD]272,396[/TD] [TD]1.9190[/TD] [TD]1450000[/TD] [TD]1746031214[/TD] [TD]27.2396[/TD] [TD]1.9190[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]6.17[/TD] [TD]15.3259620579[/TD] [TD]141,943[/TD] [TD]1.0387[/TD] [TD]6170000[/TD] [TD]15325962058[/TD] [TD]14.1943[/TD] [TD]1.0387[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]1.57[/TD] [TD]1.9672043615[/TD] [TD]136,655[/TD] [TD]0.6121[/TD] [TD]1570000[/TD] [TD]1967204362[/TD] [TD]13.6655[/TD] [TD]0.6121[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]4.99[/TD] [TD]11.1468156439[/TD] [TD]223,244[/TD] [TD]1.9531[/TD] [TD]4990000[/TD] [TD]11146815644[/TD] [TD]22.3244[/TD] [TD]1.9531[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]2.18[/TD] [TD]3.2187314271[/TD] [TD]114,301[/TD] [TD]1.1127[/TD] [TD]2180000[/TD] [TD]3218731427[/TD] [TD]11.4301[/TD] [TD]1.1127[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]5.34[/TD] [TD]12.3399069689[/TD] [TD]102,726[/TD] [TD]0.9949[/TD] [TD]5340000[/TD] [TD]12339906969[/TD] [TD]10.2726[/TD] [TD]0.9949[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]2.06[/TD] [TD]2.9566562194[/TD] [TD]103,251[/TD] [TD]1.3993[/TD] [TD]2060000[/TD] [TD]2956656219[/TD] [TD]10.3251[/TD] [TD]1.3993[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]2.27[/TD] [TD]3.4200998523[/TD] [TD]73,787[/TD] [TD]1.0437[/TD] [TD]2270000[/TD] [TD]3420099852[/TD] [TD]7.3787[/TD] [TD]1.0437[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]3.96[/TD] [TD]7.8803005019[/TD] [TD]70,697[/TD] [TD]1.5988[/TD] [TD]3960000[/TD] [TD]7880300502[/TD] [TD]7.0697[/TD] [TD]1.5988[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]3.3[/TD] [TD]5.9947477011[/TD] [TD]44,219[/TD] [TD]0.8391[/TD] [TD]3300000[/TD] [TD]5994747701[/TD] [TD]4.4219[/TD] [TD]0.8391[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]4.2[/TD] [TD]8.6074386434[/TD] [TD]52,695[/TD] [TD]2.2176[/TD] [TD]4200000[/TD] [TD]8607438643[/TD] [TD]5.2695[/TD] [TD]2.2176[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]8.51[/TD] [TD]24.8252905522[/TD] [TD]23,763[/TD] [TD]1.6571[/TD] [TD]8510000[/TD] [TD]24825290552[/TD] [TD]2.3763[/TD] [TD]1.6571[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]5.67[/TD] [TD]13.5012689404[/TD] [TD]14,340[/TD] [TD]#DIV/0![/TD] [TD]5670000[/TD] [TD]13501268940[/TD] [TD]1.4340[/TD] [TD]#DIV/0![/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] [/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] There's nothing funny going on near or below 1 in any formula (1.5 power or otherwise) that's giving the tiny builds a leg up, other than Chinevo's modded mini build just being actually a lot more space efficient (less cooling needed in that power regime/all chips integrated etc) [/QUOTE]

Verification