Perfect Air Cooled Ncase M1 Ryzen 5900x RTX 3080 FE

tygercat

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Hello everyone,

I'm looking for help to finish picking up the parts and gathering all the information about the best possible configuration for an Air cooled Ncase.

The reason for Air cooled and not AIO is because of potential travelling a couple of times per month on a flight. I could potentially go for AIO x52 or similar and risk that on security they don't let me go with it, and be ready for a "quick" dismount of the AIO and throw 120 euros to the bin, it could be that it never happens but... Not sure if "custom looop only for CPU" and drain it to 100ml bottles every time I'm going to pick flight is also a good choice? Probably it's not worth the effort...

Parts that I already have and parts that are TBC (here I need help)

Case - Ncase M1 v6.1 (to arrive in one month)

CPU - Ryzen 9 5900x

CPU Cooler - TBC - Is NF-A14 140x25mm fan under C14S the best air cooler? (no AIO)

GPU - RTX 3080 Founders Edition

RAM - TBC 32Gb - 16Gb x 16Gb

Mobo - TBC - ASUS ROG Strix X570-I?? ASUS ROG Crosshair VIII Impact?? Other??

PSU - Corsair SF 750 80 plus platinum

Fan Cases - TBC - how many noctuas black and sizes I need?

PSU / GPU Custom cables - Needed? Or not? What options do I have?



Any other stuff I could get to improve the build?
 

tygercat

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Decided for B550i because of the front Type C and no major differences to the other two.
Considering these fan cases: 3x NF-A12-25 1x under Cooler 2x under GPU. 1x slim NF-A12x15 on side? NF-A9x25 Rear.
Decided C14S as it's probably the best air cooler.
Still looking for RAM
 

Soulforger90

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You said you settled on B550 motherboard? Which brand, model did you go with?

My current build is a 3950X on an Asrock Phantom Gaming B550i board (because it has the type C header) paired with a deshrouded Strix 2070 super. I originally purchased the Gigabyte B550 aorus pro ax itx board, but it was a no go. The C14s doesn't fit on that board, in the Ncase M1.

My current fan setup is:
1 - A12x25 under the C14s (Exhaust)
1 - A9 92mm chromax fan at rear (Intake)
2 - A12x15 chromax on side bracket (exhaust)
2 - A12x25 under the GPU (Exhaust)

CPU fan is set to 50%-70% fan speed depending on temps
A9 fan is set to 38% constant speed (just under the audible level)
2 side mounted fans + 2 GPU fans are set to 50%-60% fan speed

I've also had no issues with the Asrock B550 phantom gaming board. I will be upgrading this system to a 5900X + TUF 3090 in the coming weeks using the same C14s cooler. And dropping the 2 fans under the GPU as the 3090 has no space underneath for fans that I can see.
 

tygercat

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Fans wise I'll be going for what I think (and another reddit user) is the best possible combination:
2x NFA12X15 left side Intake,
1x NF-A12x15 right side exhaust,
2x NF-A12-25 bottom intake,
1x stock 140mm C14S
And possibly a rear out of the case intake I'll think about it
 

dunknown

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Fans wise I'll be going for what I think (and another reddit user) is the best possible combination:
2x NFA12X15 left side Intake,
1x NF-A12x15 right side exhaust,
2x NF-A12-25 bottom intake,
1x stock 140mm C14S
And possibly a rear out of the case intake I'll think about it
Hi Tygercat

I have just completed a similar build but all AMD.

My build:
Corsair SF750
Samsung EVO 980 500GB
Samsung EVO 970 Plus 2TB
Samsung EVO 860 2TB
Samsung EVO 860 2TB
Asus B550 Rog Strix itx
Ryzen 5900x
ncase m1 v6.1
XFX 6800XT reference
Corsair 32GB Vengeance LPX
Noctua NH-C14S
1x NF-A12X25 under the C14S heatsink (exhaust to left side)
2x NF-A12X15 Chromax (left side exhaust)
2x NF-A12X15 (Bottom intake)
1X NF-A9X25 (rear intake)

Couple of points:
Make sure your motherboard supports the C14S, some boards have the cpu socket too high. My Asus worked fine.
If you use the same config as me, order the NM-SFC14 fan clips from Noctua.
Good cable management is critical, or things like heatsink dont fit correctly.
If you go down the custom cable path, I would not order them until you are satisfied with your build. So you know which length cables to use (as there is many configurations).
 

FlyingDutchman

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Hi Tygercat

I have just completed a similar build but all AMD.

My build:
Corsair SF750
Samsung EVO 980 500GB
Samsung EVO 970 Plus 2TB
Samsung EVO 860 2TB
Samsung EVO 860 2TB
Asus B550 Rog Strix itx
Ryzen 5900x
ncase m1 v6.1
XFX 6800XT reference
Corsair 32GB Vengeance LPX
Noctua NH-C14S
1x NF-A12X25 under the C14S heatsink (exhaust to left side)
2x NF-A12X15 Chromax (left side exhaust)
2x NF-A12X15 (Bottom intake)
1X NF-A9X25 (rear intake)

Couple of points:
Make sure your motherboard supports the C14S, some boards have the cpu socket too high. My Asus worked fine.
If you use the same config as me, order the NM-SFC14 fan clips from Noctua.
Good cable management is critical, or things like heatsink dont fit correctly.
If you go down the custom cable path, I would not order them until you are satisfied with your build. So you know which length cables to use (as there is many configurations).
I planning a similar build with the NCase M1, 5900x, strix b550i, EVGA XC3 3070 (hopefully 3080 in future) with a NH-C14S cooler.

How are the temperatures of you build? I am debating between the 5800X and 5900X (or even 5600X) I don't really need 12 cores but I heard a lot of stories about how hot the 5800X got and some claiming the 5900x runs cooler, and the 5900X is 'only' $100 more. However if both run hot I might go with the 5600x.
 

Kommando

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You got a huge cooler there. Shouldn't be of any problem. And if it runs too hot for your taste, you can still limit the maximum wattage to something between 5600X and 5900X.
 
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MultiDoc

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First of all I don’t see any reason such build won’t be viable, it should be fine. I’d only highly suggest if it’s within your budget, to get the M2426 from J-Hack and his custom cables too. It will make cable management a non-issue, I know it helped enormously in my dual rad setup in the Ncase
 
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FlyingDutchman

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You got a huge cooler there. Shouldn't be of any problem. And if it runs too hot for your taste, you can still limit the maximum wattage to something between 5600X and 5900X.
I definitely will undervolt a bit, however I don't want to having to undervolt my 5900 so much that my single core speeds drop below that of the 5600x or 5800x.
 

FlyingDutchman

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First of all I don’t see any reason such build won’t be viable, it should be fine. I’d only highly suggest if it’s within your budget, to get the M2426 from J-Hack and his custom cables too. It will make cable management a non-issue, I know it helped enormously in my dual rad setup in the Ncase
That looks very interesting, I will check out the thread on here to find out a bit more about this M2426 since it's not clear to me right away which cables I need and how it works. How they manage to run thinner and/or less cables than normal? One concern I have though is that it seems to contain more electronics so introducing more points a possible failure, which is never good in a power delivery system.
 

Kommando

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I definitely will undervolt a bit, however I don't want to having to undervolt my 5900 so much that my single core speeds drop below that of the 5600x or 5800x.
That's not how UV with PBO works. Actually, it's resulting in the opposite way or stay the same.
Maximum wattage limitation doesn't affect single core speed as well
 
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dunknown

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I planning a similar build with the NCase M1, 5900x, strix b550i, EVGA XC3 3070 (hopefully 3080 in future) with a NH-C14S cooler.

How are the temperatures of you build? I am debating between the 5800X and 5900X (or even 5600X) I don't really need 12 cores but I heard a lot of stories about how hot the 5800X got and some claiming the 5900x runs cooler, and the 5900X is 'only' $100 more. However if both run hot I might go with the 5600x.

Yeah I wanted a 5600x, but couldnt get stock and a 5900x came available so I grabbed it (I don't need 12 cores either, but stock availability is terrible).

From other feedback I have read that my 5900x seems to be a fair bit cooler than others 5800x. Others here have elluded to this fact as well that the 5600x & 5900x seem to be the best for thermals.

Temperatures seem to be quite good, compare with other people

This is with stock Bios/clock settings etc (undervolt would improve this again)

Temps vary by +/- 8c depending on the program.

Idle temps
At night (cooler ambient) mid 30c
At day (humid ambient) mid 40c

Running a CPU workload synthetic benchmark at 100% I will see brief spike to low 80c with leveling off at mid/low 70c and staying stable.

Gaming 60-70c depending on the game

Normal tasks spike to mid 60c then hover around mid 50c

As for GPU
the 6800xt reference is pretty good.
Idle in low 30c (even on a hot day)
load is 60-75c depending on the game.


This is my first SFF build so didn't know what to expect, but the results seem ok.
I should post some build pics.
 
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