News New GPU hybrid with radiator in PCIe by Asetek

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Do you have a product page or some other info? Can't gleam too much from that one Imgur photo, but I like the concept!
 
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This is a neat product. Can you use the cooler with a custom full water block? If you can get the GPU to a single slot + this cooler, then you could use this in something like the M case N1
 
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This is a neat product. Can you use the cooler with a custom full water block? If you can get the GPU to a single slot + this cooler, then you could use this in something like the M case N1
The pump is located on the GPU, so that wouldn't be a likely use case. However, we might look in to more application of the radiator form factor in the future :)
 
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When I saw the product, I was glad to see something innovative in regards to fitting radiators. But I can't think of any reason this would perform better than a decent air-cooled GPU. Because it seems to make a GPU occupy 4 to 5 slots and uses a single blower fan for a small radiator, which basically is a pump, tubing and water over a traditional air-cooled blower fan card.
 

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I suppose for Cerberus X users, it's a win win situation. GPU heat gets dumped out the back (important in a case with relatively poor exhaust), and the space under the GPU gets filled for those people who use an ATX board with only a single GPU. Plus it kinda looks like a mismatched SLI setup.
 

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When I saw the product, I was glad to see something innovative in regards to fitting radiators. But I can't think of any reason this would perform better than a decent air-cooled GPU. Because it seems to make a GPU occupy 4 to 5 slots and uses a single blower fan for a small radiator, which basically is a pump, tubing and water over a traditional air-cooled blower fan card.

So actually it does perform significantly better than a traditional blower GPU (as referenced by Alienware's own in-house testing).

The reason being that normally the single blower fan would have to cool VRM, Vram and GPU die. However, using the Rad Card the traiditional blower can run at lower RPM and still cool Vram and VRM plenty. Meanwhile the AIO will grab all the heat from the GPU die, and transfer it into the Rad Card radiator, which is then cooled by another blower, which also doesn't need to run at full force. :)
 
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So actually it does perform significantly better than a traditional blower GPU (as referenced by Alienware's own in-house testing).

The reason being that normally the single blower fan would have to cool VRM, Vram and GPU die. However, using the Rad Card the traiditional blower can run at lower RPM and still cool Vram and VRM plenty. Meanwhile the AIO will grab all the heat from the GPU die, and transfer it into the Rad Card radiator, which is then cooled by another blower, which also doesn't need to run at full force. :)
I think this could be an interesting custom-loop solution in some cases like the NCase M1. Lots of folks are putting a TX240 radiator with slim fans in the bottom of the M1, and using a 1-slot GPU under a waterblock with this below it might actually perform better. Is the radiator you're using Aluminum or Copper?
 
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I think this could be an interesting custom-loop solution in some cases like the NCase M1. Lots of folks are putting a TX240 radiator with slim fans in the bottom of the M1, and using a 1-slot GPU under a waterblock with this below it might actually perform better. Is the radiator you're using Aluminum or Copper?
It hasn't been mentioned but I have a feeling they are using a PCI slot to power the pump of the radiator unit, or at least as part of the mounting. So using this in a Ncase or similiar with an itx motherboard isn't going to work.
 
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Seems to me that if the chassis is large enough to support four PCIe slots, then it probably has a 120mm fan slot over the rear I/O, perfect for a 120mm AIO for a 'standard' hybrid cooled GPU...?

As for use with a single-slot full-cover water block, I guess that depends on where the pump is; if it is part of the GPU water block then a no go, but if the pump is in the radiator unit then a SSFCWB (Single-Slot Full-Cover Water Block) might work...!
 

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It hasn't been mentioned but I have a feeling they are using a PCI slot to power the pump of the radiator unit, or at least as part of the mounting. So using this in a Ncase or similiar with an itx motherboard isn't going to work.

The PCI slot is merely used to attach the radiator to something solid. We are looking into ways of actually using the connection, though. DIY upgrade solutions is also something we're looking at.

Technically this technology doesn't have to be attached to the PCIe - it could be moved anywhere in the case in the same format. The reason it is PCIe is that this is initially being adopted by Alienware, and the only available space in their cases, is a PCIe slot :)
 

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I would be interested in seeing this torn down, as the design of the radiator itself interests me. A very thick but narrow rad like that seems like an excellent way to fit a radiator where it otherwise couldn't fit, and an excellent use for the main strength of blower fans (static pressure). I could see bespoke case designs making excellent use of a couple of these radiators for some very compact custom loops, though the amount of design and fabrication involved would of course be significant.
 

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While a novel idea with some upsides to it, I really don't see a use for this outside of OEM machines.
Which is fine seeing as it's purpose built for an Alienware machine afterall. It's just not very exciting from a DIY builder perspective.
 
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I would be interested in seeing this torn down, as the design of the radiator itself interests me. A very thick but narrow rad like that seems like an excellent way to fit a radiator where it otherwise couldn't fit, and an excellent use for the main strength of blower fans (static pressure). I could see bespoke case designs making excellent use of a couple of these radiators for some very compact custom loops, though the amount of design and fabrication involved would of course be significant.
Alphacool has something similar (2 x 40mm). If we can imagine like 2 or 3 times this little dude inside the plastic cover, the tubing, the blower and you're all set up.

 
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Alphacool has something similar (2 x 40mm). If we can imagine like 2 or 3 times this little dude inside the plastic cover, the tubing, the blower and you're all set up.

Similar, yes, but I would imagine a rather different port and tank layout. This does after all use up quite a large portion of its volume on being "cross-flow".
 

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it's similar, yet it isn't :)
The Alphacool solution is similar (identical in form factor) to our 1U server radiators :)

There will be a few reviews coming soon(ish) from UFD Tech and Greg Salazar.
 
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