NCASE's "2 man operation" sure involves a lot of women

heacu

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I thought this was hilarious...

Go to the "About NCASE" page (https://ncases.com/pages/about), and under the following picture of a bunch of women assembling NCASEs in a factory somewhere in Asia, it says

NCASE is a two-man operation that began in late 2012....

Props for giving your workers a voice!

 

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I thought this was hilarious...

Go to the "About NCASE" page (https://ncases.com/pages/about), and under the following picture of a bunch of women assembling NCASEs in a factory somewhere in Asia, it says



Props for giving your workers a voice!


NCASE is a two man operation supported by the SFF community. What you are looking at is a picture from Lian Li's assembly line. Lian Li is their contractor.

If you have bought any system that was made by Lian Li, or in China for that matter, you have definitely have benefited from the assembly skills of women. Women have played a vital role in industry, that is often forgotten. However, if you're going to complain about a Lian Li assembly line, you might want to complain to Lian Li.
 

heacu

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No complaints, I was just observing the awkward image placement, given the text. But two men can't think of everything!
 

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Props for giving your workers a voice!

Props for creating an account & dedicating your 1st post on this. Anyway, welcome to the forum, we hope you have fun & contribute positively like what many others have been doing here.

Btw, again I'm trying to be positive here - probably it was true that at the beginning, there were only 2 men drawing their ideas using 3D/CAD software (or on a piece of napkin). That's the beginning.
 
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I might actually be the one who took this photo, if I recollect correctly (I might not; I've visited Lian Li many times and I'm sure NCASE has taken photos when visiting as well). In any case, the assembly line here is even more impressive to watch in person: you have a conveyer belt in the center that shuttles the enclosures down the line, and each employee has a specific sequence of steps that they're responsible for performing (usually attaching or assembling, and then later QA and packing). As you'd imagine, time is money, so the employees have deft hands and perform their steps very quickly and precisely; likewise, their individual workstations are set up to make it as easy as possible for them to grab, use, and swap parts and tools as they work.

I love this photo because it tells the story of this process so well. You can see the enclosures take shape as they go further down the line and are ultimately boxed. You can see the stacks of enclosures already assembled in the background, none of which existed before that workday. Even the little things, like the paper-covered surfaces and tape that they use to ward off scratches, are just so interesting.

In a sense it's the same assembly line process that was invented a century ago, but I still find it rather impressive. This small team of workers, through some basic principles and tools, is capable of massive throughput each and every day. I am still shocked at the mountain of enclosures that they can assemble in a workday.
 
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Gilles3000

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Yikes, your first post and you're already trying to start outrage over a nonexistent issue due to your own ignorance, great start m8...

The information on this matter isn't even hard to find, would've taken you like a couple of minutes to find out that their manufacturing is done by Lian Li and that NCase is in fact a 2 person company...

And Before you get any ideas, Ncase isn't the only company that has their cases made by Lian Li...
 

heacu

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I might actually be the one who took this photo, if I recollect correctly (I might not; I've visited Lian Li many times and I'm sure NCASE has taken photos when visiting as well). In any case, the assembly line here is even more impressive to watch in person: you have a conveyer belt in the center that shuttles the enclosures down the line, and each employee has a specific sequence of steps that they're responsible for performing (usually attaching or assembling, and then later QA and packing). As you'd imagine, time is money, so the employees have deft hands and perform their steps very quickly and precisely; likewise, their individual workstations are set up to make it as easy as possible for them to grab, use, and swap parts and tools as they work.

I love this photo because it tells the story of this process so well. You can see the enclosures take shape as they go further down the line and are ultimately boxed. You can see the stacks of enclosures already assembled in the background, none of which existed before that workday. Even the little things, like the paper-covered surfaces and tape that they use to ward off scratches, are just so interesting.

In a sense it's the same assembly line process that was invented a century ago, but I still find it rather impressive. This small team of workers, through some basic principles and tools, is capable of massive throughput each and every day. I am still shocked at the mountain of enclosures that they can assemble in a workday.
Do you know what the balance is between how much the Lian Li factory produces for itself and how much is contracted out? It's interesting, because it seems like they have a pretty good reputation in the industry for their own cases, but they also find it necessary - or beneficial - to collaborate with other companies.
 

heacu

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Yikes, your first post and you're already trying to start outrage over a nonexistent issue due to your own ignorance, great start m8...

The information on this matter isn't even hard to find, would've taken you like a couple of minutes to find out that their manufacturing is done by Lian Li and that NCase is in fact a 2 person company...

And Before you get any ideas, Ncase isn't the only company that has their cases made by Lian Li...
You are confusing issues. First, there is NCase's organizational structure, which as you say is made up of two people. Indeed, it was incorrect of me to refer to the women in the picture as "their workers" in my original post.

However, the substance of my post was about the optics of the juxtaposition of the photo and the text. And to this point, the organizational structure of NCase is not relevant.

You are mistaken to assert that I am trying to "start outrage". Rather, I made a fairly obvious observation, one that I suspect many others would have made as well.

Did my post come from ignorance, or an outsider's clarity? I urge you to temper your conviction.
 
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The image is a holdover from a previous version of the site that PlayfulPhoenix designed for us. I've removed it so it doesn't confuse anyone else.
 

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You are mistaken to assert that I am trying to "start outrage". Rather, I made a fairly obvious observation, one that I suspect many others would have made as well

I suspect many others reading your first post do and will mistakenly assume (not assert) the same as well.

Props for giving your workers a voice
Note the sarcasm. Exhibit A.

But two men can't think of everything!
Then second flag, exhibit B. Even when pointed out you (or what it seems to me) wonderfully dodged and still slip a silent comeback.

It could be just as you said, outsider's clarity, plus a rather snarky character - and if it is, let's just let this one slide and just agree we got off on the wrong foot. Welcome to the forum!

At least you made us see some action round 'ere, twas rather bleak couple months.
 
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heacu

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I suspect many others reading your first post do and will mistakenly assume (not assert) the same as well.


Note the sarcasm. Exhibit A.


Then second flag, exhibit B. Even when pointed out you (or what it seems to me) wonderfully dodged and still slip a silent comeback.

It could be just as you said, outsider's clarity, plus a rather snarky character - and if it is, let's just let this one slide and just agree we got off on the wrong foot. Welcome to the forum!

At least you made us see some action round 'ere, twas rather bleak couple months.

I can agree to that.

Thank you for the welcome.
 

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Do you know what the balance is between how much the Lian Li factory produces for itself and how much is contracted out? It's interesting, because it seems like they have a pretty good reputation in the industry for their own cases, but they also find it necessary - or beneficial - to collaborate with other companies.
It really depends on what they're producing, but pretty much any factory making products is going to rely on other factories or suppliers to an extent. That is really the primary advantage of manufacturing in the region, particularly onshore China - you have this massive ecosystem of producers all co-located among one another, and that solves many, many problems with respect to prototyping and building almost anything you can imagine at scale, quickly. Compare that to manufacturing (for instance) in the USA, which is possible but is going to add a lot of time and money cost and logistical hurdles, since you don't have all your suppliers as neighbors.

Just to make up an example, you might have a factory that stamps your enclosure structure/panels from sheet metal and assembles/packs it, but then they need to get cable harnesses, glass windows, ventilation meshes, PCBs, hardware, grommets, etc. from other suppliers because they don't make those things themselves. Maybe you need external folks to perform QA and then pack the finished enclosures. Then you need a courier to move pallets of your product to your fulfillment partner. Pretty quickly, even for simple products, you have a complex web of suppliers, manufacturers, and logistics partners that are all necessary to get your enclosure made and delivered to your customers. And this is for a product that is fundamentally a metal box - obviously something that we as a community care a lot about and value, but still, a fairly simple item in the grand scheme of things.
 
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