Lian Li/DAN A4-H2O

dondan

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Well, I'm disappointed by CPU cooling. 240mm AIO is not able to sustain properlly stock 12700k (180w)..:( Something is weird from my point of view (restricted airflow?)

He is running at 1200 rpm. No 240 AIO can handle 190W wis this fan speed. If you like to handle these power on a 240AIO you have to run it at 2000rpm. Furthermore like on any sandwich the AIO is feedet by the hot air of the GPU. In Gaming the temps of the 12700k will be much lower (Heaven Benchmark in his video under 60°C @4700Mhz).
 
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yimingwuzere

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What's the maximum GPU thickness that can fit the A4 H2O? Currently using a Zotac Holo 3080, deshrouded and cooled by 2x Phanteks T30s (about 65-67mm thick including the GPU's backplate) - would be interesting to see if this can fit the A4 H20 considering it's a snug fit with the Ncase M1.
 

Tuscany

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Damn, damn, damn ... such beautiful case and yet ... I can't twist and order it, only because of the flipped PSU, as I have custom cables and because of left front IO ...
 

DoubleSpice

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will the EK-240mm basic fit on the Asus z590-i by adjusting the tubes from the left? or I should adjusting the tubes as Ali did from the right beside the ram?
 

dondan

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I would do it like this:

 
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MarcParis

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He is running at 1200 rpm. No 240 AIO can handle 190W wis this fan speed. If you like to handle these power on a 240AIO you have to run it at 2000rpm. Furthermore like on any sandwich the AIO is feedet by the hot air of the GPU. In Gaming the temps of the 12700k will be much lower (Heaven Benchmark in his video under 60°C @4700Mhz).
Grrr you got the point...why Optimum Tech is testing at 1200rpm in torture/stress cpu test..it is making no sense..:)
 
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supernoman

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What's the length of the pcie cable? looking to see if I can use my existing 4.0 one or go with the 4.0 version of the case.
 

TheKDub

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Very excited to get my hands on this case!

What USB version is the front-panel Type C port? Newegg's description indicates USB 3.1, but would that be Gen 1 (5Gb/s) or Gen 2 (10Gb/s)?
 

TheRealGlutenbob

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He is running at 1200 rpm. No 240 AIO can handle 190W wis this fan speed. If you like to handle these power on a 240AIO you have to run it at 2000rpm. Furthermore like on any sandwich the AIO is feedet by the hot air of the GPU. In Gaming the temps of the 12700k will be much lower (Heaven Benchmark in his video under 60°C @4700Mhz).
Would a 12600k running at around 1500rpm produce under 75 deg in Cinebench or other stress tests? Your testing was a 3900x at 1700 something RPM, which is a bit louder than I'd like, but the 3900x would also run 15-20 deg hotter than the 12600k I would imagine.
 

Chimpee

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Grrr you got the point...why Optimum Tech is testing at 1200rpm in torture/stress cpu test..it is making no sense..:)
He actually tested it at 1300 rpm. I always believe Ali runs fan low since he values noise over cooling performance in the numerous reviews he has done with CPU torture test. So to me it makes a lot of sense. Though I do wish he does run the run the fan at max to see how the cooling performs if noise is not a concern for folks.
 
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stanleyguan

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So glad to see Ali's review! I tried running my fans at 1300rpm in FormD T1 (three A12x15s, one pull and the other two in push/pull, on a single TX240) and it kept my 9700K (overclocked running at 200W, non-delided) at 95C (ambient 23C). Perhaps in Ali's setup too much cable and the PSU shroud impeded airflow somewhat.

But great case and I love the aesthetics!
 

Aegyuptus

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So I have to say, watching Optimum Tech's video, the idea of designing this case to install the GPU upside down is actually brilliant because it makes plugging in the power cables a breeze. Can't believe he fit that giant GPU in there.
 
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dondan

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What's the length of the pcie cable? looking to see if I can use my existing 4.0 one or go with the 4.0 version of the case.

If am not wrong 170-175mm


Very excited to get my hands on this case!

What USB version is the front-panel Type C port? Newegg's description indicates USB 3.1, but would that be Gen 1 (5Gb/s) or Gen 2 (10Gb/s)?
It depends what your internal Key-A could provide.

Would a 12600k running at around 1500rpm produce under 75 deg in Cinebench or other stress tests? Your testing was a 3900x at 1700 something RPM, which is a bit louder than I'd like, but the 3900x would also run 15-20 deg hotter than the 12600k I would imagine.
The 12600k has 150W so it will be similar to the 3900X (140W). So with 1500rpm and Chinebench only you should be in this range 70-80°C. Without GPU load more close to 70°C with GPU load more to 80°C.


So glad to see Ali's review! I tried running my fans at 1300rpm in FormD T1 (three A12x15s, one pull and the other two in push/pull, on a single TX240) and it kept my 9700K (overclocked running at 200W, non-delided) at 95C (ambient 23C). Perhaps in Ali's setup too much cable and the PSU shroud impeded airflow somewhat.

But great case and I love the aesthetics!

I know the 9700k die is not soldered but you can't compare 200W of an old CPU with a new one. The CPUs does have different DIE sizes, thermal throttling bounderies s.o.

QUOTE Noctua: "This is just the tip of the iceberg though. The second key problem is that the amount of heat that a cooler can dissipate can vary greatly from CPU to CPU. For example, the same cooler may be able to dissipate 250W on CPU A but only 150W on CPU B. In particular, CPUs with smaller chips (DIEs) and smaller integrated heat-spreaders (IHS) are much more difficult to cool than larger ones that emit the same amount of heat. (https://noctua.at/en/noctua-standardised-performance-rating)"

Furthermore your customloop could be better than the EKWB AIO. Your waterblock is better, your radiator is more slim but it is full copper. You have three 15mm fan that outperform 2x 25mm thick ones.