Production FormD T1 Classic (READ FIRST POST)

Increase volume from 9.8L to 10.5L to support MSI Suprim X 30XX?

  • Yes, worth the trade off to be more compatible with components

    Votes: 116 24.7%
  • No, not worth it b/c it is not better than the ROG 30XX, which fits now at <10L

    Votes: 353 75.3%

  • Total voters
    469

Navic

Master of Cramming
Jan 6, 2019
587
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Came out of nowhere! You make it sound like @Wahaha360 is just making this up as it comes to him.

Check Update 2019-08-08

It is standard practice on this forum to put updates in the first post. It has been stated MULTIPLE times within the last two weeks of this thread that two tone would come out later this year. The black version has been known about for 6 months.

The reason I banned myself from posting until now is because while many people think I am rude (which is totally understandable), the information they are looking for is 90% of the time in the first post. Along with photos charts and anything else related to this case. The information is there.

@Wahaha360 is working his butt off to make sure this case is nothing short of flawless perfection. The least we can do is skim through the pages and learn what we can about the case and ask the questions if we can't find the answers.

I might be an ass but I try and take the time to dig deep for information.
Searching through this thread is made even easier with the ALL NEW* search function built into the website!

*Not actually new, been there for quite a while and is very useful.
 

gwertheim

King of Cable Management
Nov 27, 2017
938
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Agreed with gwertheim....

n00bies, if you are reading this, search the thread before posting your question!

For people unfamiliar with the sff forums, I understand because everything has a learning curve.

It's the people who have been here for a while and know how this place works is who I am calling out.
 
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gwertheim

King of Cable Management
Nov 27, 2017
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Seems like the Silverstone Tundra TD-02 will fit is this case at only 37mm in height with fans and radiator.
https://www.silverstonetek.com/product.php?pid=597&area=en

It's not just about the thickness, it's the whole package.

I would stick with @Wahaha360's recommendation and go with a 120mm rad or a modified alphacool LT240.

If you read the first post, he has done his tests with a handful of rads. It's your money but any 240 rad right now is not compatible
 
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hexides

What's an ITX?
Feb 7, 2020
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Will preorders be available on JD or taobao? I live in Shanghai and the only information related to shipping I've been able to find has been about shipping out of China.
 

dondan

Shrink Ray Wielder
DAN Cases
Feb 23, 2015
1,977
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Dimensions (W x H x D): 133 x 216 x 330, 9.48L

Are these dimension correct? I do not understand how a height of 216mm is possible? On the picture you show a Alphacool 240 radiator with Noctua fans. From the pictures it looks like the top and bottom panel is min. 2mm thick. Here is my calculation with very tiny keep out zones:

2mm - top panel
2mm - keep out for riser cable (this is very close normaly min. 5mm
170mm - motherboard
2mm - between motherboard and fan (this is very close normaly min. 5mm)
17mm Noctua A12x15 (no it is not 15mm it is 17mm)
25mm radiator (or is this the 30mm version?)
2mm - bottom panel

Total= 220mm and not 216mm. With more realistic values like 3mm for your outer panels and min. 4mm around the motherboard = 226mm.
Is this a write error or the inner valus or did you miss to update these value?
 

Rom29292

Cable Smoosher
May 28, 2017
12
3
Dimensions (W x H x D): 133 x 216 x 330, 9.48L

Are these dimension correct? I do not understand how a height of 216mm is possible? On the picture you show a Alphacool 240 radiator with Noctua fans. From the pictures it looks like the top and bottom panel is min. 2mm thick. Here is my calculation with very tiny keep out zones:

2mm - top panel
2mm - keep out for riser cable (this is very close normaly min. 5mm
170mm - motherboard
2mm - between motherboard and fan (this is very close normaly min. 5mm)
17mm Noctua A12x15 (no it is not 15mm it is 17mm)
25mm radiator (or is this the 30mm version?)
2mm - bottom panel

Total= 220mm and not 216mm. With more realistic values like 3mm for your outer panels and min. 4mm around the motherboard = 226mm.
Is this a write error or the inner valus or did you miss to update these value?

I asked the same question as you on page 97.
I do not understand either.
 

Wahaha360

a.k.a W360
Original poster
SFFLAB
NCASE
SSUPD
Feb 23, 2015
2,131
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How much clearance is there for a fans and a radiator? Also how much clearance between the panel and the PSU and the panel and the Motherboard?
In the optimum tech video, 43 mm under motherboard and 35mm + 25mm under PSU. Width is the primary restricting dimension, at exactly 120mm

41mm under the motherboard, that's mistake with the video.
 
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Wahaha360

a.k.a W360
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SFFLAB
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SSUPD
Feb 23, 2015
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Seems like the Silverstone Tundra TD-02 will fit is this case at only 37mm in height with fans and radiator.
https://www.silverstonetek.com/product.php?pid=597&area=en

Silverstone Tundra TD-02 radiator will work, the problem is the tubes. Those tubes cannot be dissembled and reassembled like the LT240, so if you get this radiator, getting the tubing to fit might be pain in the a$$ or impossible.

Performance wise, it's an 1) aluminum, 2) thin, 3) not high FPI = most likely worse than the LT240. Prob even worse than some 120mm AIOs out there.

Just wait for me 240 AIO ?
 
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Wahaha360

a.k.a W360
Original poster
SFFLAB
NCASE
SSUPD
Feb 23, 2015
2,131
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Will preorders be available on JD or taobao? I live in Shanghai and the only information related to shipping I've been able to find has been about shipping out of China.

No JD or Taobao

If I can't get USD into RMB for mfg, I will sell on TaoBao.

* for those that don't know, Chinese Govt limits the total USD > RMB exchange per person per year, it is pain in the a$$ to get round this.
 

gwertheim

King of Cable Management
Nov 27, 2017
938
1,555
Dimensions (W x H x D): 133 x 216 x 330, 9.48L

Are these dimension correct? I do not understand how a height of 216mm is possible? On the picture you show a Alphacool 240 radiator with Noctua fans. From the pictures it looks like the top and bottom panel is min. 2mm thick. Here is my calculation with very tiny keep out zones:

2mm - top panel
2mm - keep out for riser cable (this is very close normaly min. 5mm
170mm - motherboard
2mm - between motherboard and fan (this is very close normaly min. 5mm)
17mm Noctua A12x15 (no it is not 15mm it is 17mm)
25mm radiator (or is this the 30mm version?)
2mm - bottom panel

Total= 220mm and not 216mm. With more realistic values like 3mm for your outer panels and min. 4mm around the motherboard = 226mm.
Is this a write error or the inner valus or did you miss to update these value?

@Wahaha360 any chance you can answer this one
 

Wahaha360

a.k.a W360
Original poster
SFFLAB
NCASE
SSUPD
Feb 23, 2015
2,131
10,697
Dimensions (W x H x D): 133 x 216 x 330, 9.48L

Are these dimension correct? I do not understand how a height of 216mm is possible? On the picture you show a Alphacool 240 radiator with Noctua fans. From the pictures it looks like the top and bottom panel is min. 2mm thick. Here is my calculation with very tiny keep out zones:

2mm - top panel
2mm - keep out for riser cable (this is very close normaly min. 5mm
170mm - motherboard
2mm - between motherboard and fan (this is very close normaly min. 5mm)
17mm Noctua A12x15 (no it is not 15mm it is 17mm)
25mm radiator (or is this the 30mm version?)
2mm - bottom panel

Total= 220mm and not 216mm. With more realistic values like 3mm for your outer panels and min. 4mm around the motherboard = 226mm.
Is this a write error or the inner valus or did you miss to update these value?
I asked the same question as you on page 97.
I do not understand either.

1.3mm - Top Panel (2.5mm wall thick Top Panel, CNC 1.2mm off in some areas)
1.7mm - Riser Cable keep out
170mm - Motherboard
0.5mm - Gap between motherboard and fan
16mm - Noctua fan A12-15 Fan (the rubber on fan thickness only affect total thickness on the side touching radiator)
25mm - Radiator
1.3mm - Top Panel (2.5mm wall thick Bottom Panel, CNC 1.2mm off in some areas)

That's 215.8mm in height

@Wahaha360 any chance you can answer this one

Just about to
 
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threestripevida

Airflow Optimizer
Mar 28, 2017
277
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Just curious if the Asetek 645lt would fit? Mainly asking since I already have it and I could just use it. I’ve looked through the thread as well at the testing for cpu water cooling. Do you recommend we build our own 240/120 AIO, or just buy the Corsair H55?