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JRey

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UPDATE RE: Big Shuriken 3 + Noctua A12x15 Air Cooling

Hey everyone,
I decided to install the L12S to see what kind of performance i'd get over the BS3 + Noctua fan. I did return my old 32GB Ripjaws 3200 C14 for 16GB Corsair LPX 3600 C14 just to have maximum compatibility with any cooler for the T1.

To my surprise, the L12S was ~5c cooler than the BS3 + Noctua (61c vs 66c). Unfortunately, I didn't try the BS3 with the stock fan before I installed the L12S so I can't really say if the Noctua fan reduced performance.

Some things to consider:
  1. I remounted the BS3 multiple times and got the same results prior to installing the L12S so mounting hardware/pressure could be an issue.
  2. OT's own video shows the BS3 with a stock fan being ~2c of the L12S so the stock fan could be a better fit, especially since the Noctua has a larger hub
  3. The BS3 had the fan configured for PUSH and it was very close to the mesh side panel. The L12S was configured for PULL (intake). The fan being further away from the side panel could have better airflow and less turbulence.

I'll get around to testing the BS3 with the stock fan again this weekend to confirm if the fan or mounting pressure or both was a culprit to reduced performance.

Side note, I failed to secure a 5900X yesterday so my 70mm and 50mm CPU cooler tests are on hold. I did preorder the 5900x at BH PhotoVideo yesterday morning though (preorders are closed now). Hopefully, I can get one soon to test low profile cooler capabilities.

Side note 2, According to
Gamer Nexus, the 5950X runs less wattage at load vs the 5900X (120w vs 133w), his assumption is better binning. I'll consider going for a 5950X instead.
 
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moulderine

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You will only be able to put one fan on the 120mm AIO, as the AIO will be mounted too close to the top panel to add a slim fan above the radiator. You can add another fan next to the radiator for better case airflow.

Going from config 1 to config 3, I saw about a 5c increase in GPU temps. Config 2 should have the best GPU temps, but also the worst CPU temps. Config 3 is the best balance for everything, but with the 5600x I don't think you need a 240mm AIO unless you are doing some overclocking or want more silence.

Exact insight I needed around config, really appreciated.
Final q - do you know why you saw the 5c increase moving to the 240mm AIO? (presuming this is not related to the quality of the chosen AIO's). Was it due to the needed fan size for under the radiator vs a bigger one next to it?
 

hetvler

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I'm fairly sure those will perform the same.
I've just bought 32gb 3600 cl 16-16-16-36 G.Skill which are in my opinion the best right now.
Timings are important.
In three slot mode 10mm tubes should fit.

is this yet another case of me getting too in the weeds on something? happens a lot.

Also which GSkills did you get and will they work in 3slot mode (read: are they under 40ish mm in height)
 

BRSxIgnition

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Has there not been any statement about the QC issues with the latest batch?

I've been seeing a few issue posts now on the subreddit regarding mismatched finishes, scratches, bends, and incorrect MB standoffs.

I hope my E-White order doesn't have any of those issues. (Late December 2020, Early January 2021)
 
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Navic

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Exact insight I needed around config, really appreciated.
Final q - do you know why you saw the 5c increase moving to the 240mm AIO? (presuming this is not related to the quality of the chosen AIO's). Was it due to the needed fan size for under the radiator vs a bigger one next to it?
Because there was no longer a fan that had unimpeded airflow to exhaust the GPU's hot air.
When you put a radiator in front of the fan, that reduces the fan's ability to exhaust other air from inside the case, so the GPU's hot air was not being exhausted out of the case as effectively as the 120mm AIO + case fan configuration
 
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PKAWA

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is this yet another case of me getting too in the weeds on something? happens a lot.

Also which GSkills did you get and will they work in 3slot mode (read: are they under 40ish mm in height)
Well, I think that 4000+ mhz sells as being a big number and the newest but it's better to have like 3600 with good timings.
It directly affects latency.
Yeah they'll work with 3 slot mode. Or at least in my case it does. I have a black T1 here and looking at that exact setup.
I have the tubes routed underneath though. Looks better to me than obstructing the rgb's.
I've bought a similar set for a second case.

I have these: F4-3600C16D-32GTZN

They have them in 16gb too, I noticed that was what you were going to buy.
Won't deny that lpr will be easier to use in every setup though but just saying that this is what my choice and opinion was.


Cable for the cpu is a bit to the side here to show the creator of the M2426 his product in use.
 
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hetvler

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Well, I think that 4000+ mhz sells as being a big number and the newest but it's better to have like 3600 with good timings.
It directly affects latency.
Yeah they'll work with 3 slot mode. Or at least in my case it does. I have a black T1 here and looking at that exact setup.
I have the tubes routed underneath though. Looks better to me than obstructing the rgb's.
I've bought a similar set for a second case.

I have these: F4-3600C16D-32GTZN

They have them in 16gb too, I noticed that was what you were going to buy.
Won't deny that lpr will be easier to use in every setup though but just saying that this is what my choice and opinion was.


Cable for the cpu is a bit to the side here to show the creator of the M2426 his product in use.

oh interesting I didn’t realize the tubes could rouya down like that. I guess I can get any ram I want! The world is my oyster!
 

Navic

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oh interesting I didn’t realize the tubes could rouya down like that. I guess I can get any ram I want! The world is my oyster!
As long as you can route the tubes that way and the tubes are long enough. With an AIO this isn't really possible on AMD because of the AM4 mounting system.
Custom loops can route this way easily because they can make the tubes go wherever you want, can't always do that with an AIO.
 
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hetvler

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As long as you can route the tubes that way and the tubes are long enough. With an AIO this isn't really possible on AMD because of the AM4 mounting system.
Custom loops can route this way easily because they can make the tubes go wherever you want, can't always do that with an AIO.
Oh are those not the stock lt240 tubes? I saw the springs I assumed they were. Thanks for the warning!
 

Navic

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Oh are those not the stock lt240 tubes? I saw the springs I assumed they were. Thanks for the warning!
Doesn't look like it. The stock tubes are glossy, and they also exit with a 90 degree angle from the pump, the ones in that picture go straight down. I also don't see the quick disconnect fitting.
 
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max31092

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LT240 owner: They don't look stock to me but the poster can clarify it.

It is really hard to fit it in 2-slot without custom cables and maybe new fittings. This might be to the AM4 mounting.
 
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hetvler

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LT240 owner: They don't look stock to me but the poster can clarify it.

It is really hard to fit it in 2-slot without custom cables and maybe new fittings. This might be to the AM4 mounting.

I’m an owner too I just haven’t opened it yet ?
 

PKAWA

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They are aftermarket tygon R6010 tubes.
People in this thread found a problem with the plasticizer in the tubes clogging up the pump.
So it's recommended to change the tubes anyway. For this route I needed 1m of tube, 1L cryofuel clear, and an additional 30cm spring.

Navic is right, this is the Asus x370 board with an 8700K. I don't know if it will fit with the AMD brackets.
Never thought about that before Navic mentioned it too.
Looking at the pictures it should though.

For the radiator I used one normal fitting and one 45 degree fitting above the gpu.
If you go this way I suggest buying all fittings new. You won't get them of without severely damaging them.

The quick disconnects have been left out of the loop because I don't need them, and heard stories of them leaking.
Other than that, I don't think they'll fit in 3 slot mode.

For my next build I'm using the aquanaut with ek DDC pump
 
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HisAirness_23

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There was a poll for the side panel color and light silver was the winner (wasn't 50% though, I suggest a run off election? lol) So light silver will be the side panel color for the E-white. Also the expense is due to the more expensive coating process of E-white. I'm not knowledgeable in this area, but it is a more involved and expensive process, and is more durable than anodization.
Yeah, I was aware of that, just didn't know which panel won so thanks. Not really a fan of the choice though. And you cannot change the color of the side panels and have to purchase it like that. Yes, seems like thats the reason.
For about 300 € after shipping this case is too expensive for me. I will go for sth different, maybe the Acat X1/X2 or AKLLA A4V2/Pro through Superbuy.
 
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PKAWA

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It is a very expensive case. The cnc work does make it expensive so the cost is very probably justified. But it's hard to shell out 300 euro with shipping and import taxes just for the case when for example my last case was a nzxt h500 and only 80 euro with glass panel, fans etc.
That Acat looks very nice too. I liked the green ghost S1 but could never find it.
 

PKAWA

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Long shot, but is there anybody that can help me get this low profile connector?

I have found the case, the acat X1.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.
 
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thelaughingman

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Long shot, but is there anybody that can help me get this low profile connector?

I have found the case, the acat X1.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.
better go to the Taobao thread
 

STLamy

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Jan 4, 2020
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Anyone have the measurement for a custom PCIE cable for the new 3080 FE? routing around the GPU, and taking into account the more central port it’s looks as if 20cm isn’t enough.

Cheers
 

ciaran clare

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Just got round to building the case, two issues. none of the instructions or videos on youtube are very clear on which screws to use a different parts, do i use long or short screws for which parts... Also am i supposed to have a longer standoff for 3 slot graphics cards? in the optium techs assembly video their is an extra long standoff for 3 slot... i dont seem to have this
 
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