Production FormD T1 Classic (READ FIRST POST)

Increase volume from 9.8L to 10.5L to support MSI Suprim X 30XX?

  • Yes, worth the trade off to be more compatible with components

    Votes: 69 19.9%
  • No, not worth it b/c it is not better than the ROG 30XX, which fits now at <10L

    Votes: 277 80.1%

  • Total voters
    346

tinyitx

Shrink Way Wielder
Jan 25, 2018
2,037
1,944
Oh so you *are* updating build material to Beskar-- very nice!
Beskar is just too sci-fi.
How about:-
2024 - comes a breakthrough of phase change technology, winning the Physics Nobel Prize that year
2026 - a small size ultra compact working prototype for CPU cooler is released in CES from Cooler Master
2028 - CM released the first AIO such cooler, rendering most water cooling solution obsolete
2029 - T1 is redesigned from the ground up
2030 - new T1 is released, having yet another huge backlog of orders
 
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Wahaha360

a.k.a W360
Original poster
SFFLAB
NCASE
SSUPD
Feb 23, 2015
1,942
9,637
If one doesn’t adapt or evolve, one gets left behind. As the OG SFF case and the trailblazer for this wonderful hobby we are all a part of, I can’t wait to see what’s next!

I have wanted to do a major overhaul on the M1 for many years. However, our manufacturing stability and its limitations, became a design and product feature limitation over the years.

Necere and I have been working together and separately on an update for the M1 for some time.

Necere, has some ideas of his own and is heading towards a different direction than me, let's call his idea M2. Myself, with the experience gained from T1, has allowed me to re-imagined an update to the M1 called M1EVO.

The better product should be executed, and that's net plus for SFF.
 

tinyitx

Shrink Way Wielder
Jan 25, 2018
2,037
1,944
I have wanted to do a major overhaul on the M1 for many years. However, our manufacturing stability and its limitations, became a design and product feature limitation over the years.

Necere and I have been working together and separately on an update for the M1 for some time.

Necere, has some ideas of his own and is heading towards a different direction than me, let's call his idea M2. Myself, with the experience gained from T1, has allowed me to re-imagined an update to the M1 called M1EVO.

The better product should be executed, and that's net plus for SFF.
It would be exciting to see M2 vs M1 EVO and, indeed, may the better product comes out.

BUT, is there anyone out there who secretly (like me) hoping for a tied result and thus both M2 and M1 EVO make it to production. Then, the SFF community will have two choices!

I mean, one is great but two is always greater than one, mathematically and contributionally (yes, I just made up this word...you know what I mean) to the SFF community. ✌️>👍

High five🖐
 

PKAWA

Master of Cramming
May 27, 2020
455
448
I have wanted to do a major overhaul on the M1 for many years. However, our manufacturing stability and its limitations, became a design and product feature limitation over the years.

Necere and I have been working together and separately on an update for the M1 for some time.

Necere, has some ideas of his own and is heading towards a different direction than me, let's call his idea M2. Myself, with the experience gained from T1, has allowed me to re-imagined an update to the M1 called M1EVO.

The better product should be executed, and that's net plus for SFF.
Do you know when it'll be available roughly? Very interested in the design as I've always felt the case was the best overall but dated in looks.
 

SoSquidTaste

SFF Lingo Aficionado
Feb 26, 2018
108
172
...hoping for a tied result and thus both M2 and M1 EVO make it to production. Then, the SFF community will have two choices!

...

I don’t want to change M1 look, just features and build quality.

You better off following up with Necere’s M2, he plans to change the look.

This would be the dream. M1 (retired), and then M1 EVO + M2. Ncase has the name and history to deserve a proper portfolio like that IMHO!

EDIT: And now back to our regularly scheduled programming... T1 v2.0 Reference layout is already getting some namechecks over on /r/SFFPC with regards to alternatives to Ncase's riser-less build. The more the merrier?
 
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laiv

Caliper Novice
Jan 25, 2020
31
14
It depends on the size of the next drop :-)
If that "more the merrier" is translated into a larger drop (something I suspect won't happen) then yes.
@Wahaha360 how do you size drops? I guess it's the manufacturer who sets a hard cap, given the current situation.
 

Brude27

Airflow Optimizer
Jun 21, 2018
369
862
I have wanted to do a major overhaul on the M1 for many years. However, our manufacturing stability and its limitations, became a design and product feature limitation over the years.

Necere and I have been working together and separately on an update for the M1 for some time.

Necere, has some ideas of his own and is heading towards a different direction than me, let's call his idea M2. Myself, with the experience gained from T1, has allowed me to re-imagined an update to the M1 called M1EVO.

The better product should be executed, and that's net plus for SFF.
Totally understandable. Just to clarify, I want to say that my statement wasn’t a negative toward the M1 at all. It’s one of the most innovative cases ever, and the V5 I had still holds up as one of my favorite cases I’ve had the pleasure of building in. I don’t think it suffered from anything, and if it wasn’t for the T1, I’d own the latest version of the M1 instead. My statement was more to say that I’m excited to see the next iteration of what I deem as one of the most innovative cases of its time. :)
I don’t want to change M1 look, just features and build quality.

You better off following up with Necere’s M2, he plans to change the look.
The M1 aesthetic is iconic, and I think changing that too much would be a mistake. I’ll look very forward to what you both come up with, either way. :)
 
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Questors

SFF Lingo Aficionado
Oct 28, 2018
96
44
I am a believer that more choice is better, to a point. It can become a confusing mess when taken too far. I don't see that problem here. As a consumer, I don't like being locked into something specific, like a brand or limited with parts choice by size or lack of size.
 
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truthfulie

Cable Smoosher
Feb 10, 2021
11
8
To downsize or not?

Do you think it'll make dual rad build in 2.0 easier (and maybe even fit a tiny res a bit easier) if I were to downsize to 3080TI FE with EK block? I currently have 3090 FE with EK block and fitting pump/res was a tough as is. I'd imagine it won't be easier with dual rad build.

I have an opportunity to buy 3080ti FE at MSRP...what to do...
 

DavidN

Chassis Packer
Mar 9, 2021
17
11
How are we doing here? It's been months since I last saw some sort of update on an estimated release schedule (which at that time said August(?)). I've been waiting with all my components on my shelf for a year now and I can't wait much longer before getting a chassi... Please tell me that this will be out soon?
 

DrHudacris

King of Cable Management
Jul 20, 2019
809
1,555
How are we doing here? It's been months since I last saw some sort of update on an estimated release schedule (which at that time said August(?)). I've been waiting with all my components on my shelf for a year now and I can't wait much longer before getting a chassi... Please tell me that this will be out soon?
I'm with you,feening for an update on 2.0 , but if you need a case soonish, just get a cheap holdover case for now.
 

SoSquidTaste

SFF Lingo Aficionado
Feb 26, 2018
108
172
How are we doing here? It's been months since I last saw some sort of update on an estimated release schedule (which at that time said August(?)). I've been waiting with all my components on my shelf for a year now and I can't wait much longer before getting a chassi... Please tell me that this will be out soon?
As of some thread discussion a couple of weeks ago here, I believe big boss W360 has gone into head-down implementation mode and won't be trickling out as many small, incremental status updates as before. Those little trickles had a habit of ruffling feathers since many of those incremental updates / ancillary discussions might be subject to change-- rather than being official announcements for eager buyers to plan around.

I am with @DrHudacris in slapping my forearm veins regularly when I refresh this thread for the next official update 🙃