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fabio

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Hey Fabio are u going to try to sand that rad? Or just leave it as it is?
I don't know where I should bring it to get sanded! I would like it though! But soon I am going on holiday, so, I will think again at it beginning of September!
 

DrHudacris

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BTW, there is also this Bitspower beauty, based on the LS20 of hardware labs but with 4 ports like the ST30 of Alphacool!
Maybe I will try to see if it fits with the Kaze Flex.
Otherwise, I can try with two Slip Stream 12mm 2000rpm!

And I want to try the Magicool G2 actually! Seems to be one of the best 27mm rads!



I saw this earlier when I was looking at HWL L series, it's on US Amazon so I bought it to test also! Haha, great minds! I bet with a little sanding of the sides it will fit easily.

For the xflow, I know I will have to modify the end tank a little. 3.4mm/2 so just 1.7mm of somehow modding (sand? Bend?)

And wow..you are telling me maybe 3rd fan is possible with the GTS? Of course, if the bitspower Leviathan works with 3 fans more easily, and performance isn't much worse, then I think that's the one to pick.
 
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I don't know where I should bring it to get sanded! I would like it though! But soon I am going on holiday, so, I will think again at it beginning of September!
GTS got a primer version which you can do your own paint finish. Not sure if anyone has one to take the width as primer coat is definitely thinner than powder coat finish.

Btw to clarify, the EK matte black soft tube you are using 15.9/9.5? I remember reading you commented using 12.7 zmt which is softer than Alphacool TPV yesterday. However, EK only have 12.7 in Durclear. Smallest ZMT matte black is 15.9. Or issit just 1 of your previous build?
 

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GTS got a primer version which you can do your own paint finish. Not sure if anyone has one to take the width as primer coat is definitely thinner than powder coat finish.

Btw to clarify, the EK matte black soft tube you are using 15.9/9.5? I remember reading you commented using 12.7 zmt which is softer than Alphacool TPV yesterday. However, EK only have 12.7 in Durclear. Smallest ZMT matte black is 15.9. Or issit just 1 of your previous build?
I think in that comment I've only said that the ZMT are like the TPV but softer, but never said that the ZMT are 13. If I did, was just a typo.
Nice! For the primer version! Do you know where I can find it? Mine is super smooth though, not really a "powder" coat!
Yes, I using the ZMT, the 10/16.
 
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Philtt

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I think in that comment I've only said that the ZMT are like the TPV but softer, but never said that the ZMT are 13. If I did, was just a typo.
Nice! For the primer version! Do you know where I can find it? Mine is super smooth though, not really a "powder" coat!
Yes, I using the ZMT, the 10/16.
Here you go. I think it looks great when fitted into a white T1!

 
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Here you go. I think it looks great when fitted into a white T1!

This rad is smaller than 240 gts common? or it is just the same but white?
 

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Here you go. I think it looks great when fitted into a white T1!

White? You may check this https://id.aliexpress.com/item/32802053804.html

syscooling as240-t 22mm
 

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I haven’t assembled anything yet but I did just switch over the terminal fitting on my Alphacool GPU block to the SLI terminal. It comes with the GPU block. Here’s a photo of it next to the original fitting, so you can visually compare the two
thanks! this concurs with another member's post where he puts the TPV 90 degree to make the complete rotary fitting - it will not save any height and actually 5mm taller than the EK one. So I'll just get the EK when the time comes (Big Navi comes) :)
 
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rarskies

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Never said "without a problem".
The 27mm are still the best and the limit.
The TX240 is the best radiator I've tried until now. With 3 slim fans is even better (1/2C).
I am not sure the Bitspower fits like the GTS, or even fits actually.
The GTS is mounted without bracket or screws and push against the side panels.
Hey Fabio, I’m sure you have mentioned this somewhere in the 400+ pages (I have been following for last 150 in detail). I am in the fortunate position of having the xspc tx240, hwlabs gts240 and the alphacool lt240 rad as well as various noctua slim and A12x25s. I have the first two rads from an NCase build.

You say the hwlabs gts240 outperforms the tx240 by a couple of degrees, does the tx240 outperform the lt240 rad?

How is the sound profile affected by having the fans in between the rad and top (like we have to on the tx240 and hwlabs) vs underneath with the lt240 rad? Is the lt240 considerably quieter or much the same?
My case comes in the next week I guess an I am super excited. I’m trying to work out which radiator I should hang on to and which I should sell because it seems the community is really having trouble finding suitable 240 rads at the moment. I’m in Australia for any desperate rad searchers.
 

kazuma86

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Be careful with aluminum radiators! When combined with other common metals in blocks and fittings (like copper) you can accelerate corrosion.
Wogh, didn't know that.. thank you for your reminder..
 
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DrHudacris

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Hey Fabio, I’m sure you have mentioned this somewhere in the 400+ pages (I have been following for last 150 in detail). I am in the fortunate position of having the xspc tx240, hwlabs gts240 and the alphacool lt240 rad as well as various noctua slim and A12x25s. I have the first two rads from an NCase build.

You say the hwlabs gts240 outperforms the tx240 by a couple of degrees, does the tx240 outperform the lt240 rad?

How is the sound profile affected by having the fans in between the rad and top (like we have to on the tx240 and hwlabs) vs underneath with the lt240 rad? Is the lt240 considerably quieter or much the same?
My case comes in the next week I guess an I am super excited. I’m trying to work out which radiator I should hang on to and which I should sell because it seems the community is really having trouble finding suitable 240 rads at the moment. I’m in Australia for any desperate rad searchers.
The ranking of radiators (best to worse) is currently HWL GTS, TX, EK classic, and last LT240. The LT240 suffers from being thin and low FPI, but definitely easiest to fit.

So comparing fans on top with TX or HWL to fans bottom with LT240, you have to consider that due to better performance, you can run fans slower on the TX and HWL. In my own testing, the fans are a bit louder when between panel and radiator. But at least with noctua slim fans it's a pleasing wind rushing noise (sorry I don't know the technical term for this, but I found it not annoying).
 

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The ranking of radiators (best to worse) is currently HWL GTS, TX, EK classic, and last LT240. The LT240 suffers from being thin and low FPI, but definitely easiest to fit.

So comparing fans on top with TX or HWL to fans bottom with LT240, you have to consider that due to better performance, you can run fans slower on the TX and HWL. In my own testing, the fans are a bit louder when between panel and radiator. But at least with noctua slim fans it's a pleasing wind rushing noise (sorry I don't know the technical term for this, but I found it not annoying).
I completely agree on what @DrHudacris said.
My experience though is a bit difference regarding the noise:

If you really want the 25mm fan, it can fits with the TX and the SE/LT, BUT, the 15mm fan, between the MB and the radiator, being so close to the motherboard, makes IMO more noise than being on top between the rad and the panel.

So I prefer to have 2 slims fan against the top panel actually, even if you can hear them above 1200rpm, are more pleasant than the other options.

One more thing: THE best noise profile I got is using the TX with 2 slim profile on top.
Because the rad is only 20.5mm, the fans actually are not against the panel, so there’s no turbolence noise. BUT, I’ve checked yesterday, somehow in this option the hot hair have more difficult to go out.
Removing the top panel allowed me to gain 1/2 C under stress.

I can really recommend in general, the SE and the TX.

But in general, just get a radiator that is 27mm or less. It’s perfect!
People forget that I am using a Titan RTX and a 16 Core CPU, and I am at the limits of the 240 radiators in general. 98% of the people will never see any difference in performance.
 
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That's awesome @fabio !! I've missed some of this thread recently, and it looks like you've changed your pump and top. Which combo are you using now? (Many apologies if it's been asked already)
after endless hours of search, it looks like he is using
and

but I still cannot find what kind of connector is here.
https://smallformfactor.net/forum/proxy.php?image=https%3A%2F%2Fi.postimg.cc%2F255HRzXY%2FIMG-3940.jpg&hash=a830ddaa17f0fed466874bffc1d8aab5


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rarskies

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The ranking of radiators (best to worse) is currently HWL GTS, TX, EK classic, and last LT240. The LT240 suffers from being thin and low FPI, but definitely easiest to fit.

So comparing fans on top with TX or HWL to fans bottom with LT240, you have to consider that due to better performance, you can run fans slower on the TX and HWL. In my own testing, the fans are a bit louder when between panel and radiator. But at least with noctua slim fans it's a pleasing wind rushing noise (sorry I don't know the technical term for this, but I found it not annoying).

I completely agree on what @DrHudacris said.
My experience though is a bit difference regarding the noise:

If you really want the 25mm fan, it can fits with the TX and the SE/LT, BUT, the 15mm fan, between the MB and the radiator, being so close to the motherboard, makes IMO more noise than being on topo between the rad and the panel.

So I prefer to have 2 slims fan against the top panel actually, even if you can hear them above 1200rpm, are more pleasant than the other options.

One more thing: THE best noise profile I got is using the TX with 2 slim profile on top.
Because the rad is only 20.5mm, the fans actually are not against the panel, so there’s no turbolence noise. BUT, I’ve checked yesterday, somehow is this option the hot hair have more difficult to go out.
Removing the top panel allowed me to gain 1/2 C under stress.

I can really recommend in general, the SE and the TX.
Thank you both for the input, I might just go ahead and sell the lt240 and test out what I prefer between hwlabs + 2slim noctua and tx240 + 2/3 slim noctua. I will wait until my dc-lt 2600 coming from Taobao is confirmed. Also might test with external 280 radiator + 240 to check performance differences.