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aexeq

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Apr 7, 2020
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I think I might push you in the right direction @ManaNeko
PCIe Gen4 SSDs tend to get hot not, because they output that much heat, they rather just don't get actively cooled.
The SSD shouldn't even add 10% more heat to your loop.
Also using another fan with the NH-A12x25 in push/pull won't increase cooling much, if at all.
I tend to use the lower FPI radiators due to their ability to scale better with low fan RPM.
IMO the TX240 would only be good, if you plan to use 2 12x15 fans for clearance reasons.
Otherwise the SE 240 Classic would be my preferred choice with one 12x15 and one 12x25.

You should tag @fabio for some detailed information about performance tho.
 

DrHudacris

Master of Cramming
Jul 20, 2019
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Is that an issue with the screws digging too deep on both sides of the rad at the same time?
Hmm, I'm not sure. Now that I think about it, I think it could be possible, but really pointless because the LT rad is just 16fpi. Which don't benefit much from push/pull and higher fan speeds.

How are the temps/noise with that setup? How much does the additional 24mm help?

Cheers, I think you might have answered this before?
My thermal data isn't as extensive as @fabio, but he reports 1-2 degrees cooler for an otherwise identical set-up components wise. Noise is pretty good too, I keep the slim fans at 0 rpm when idling.

Problem is I don't believe there is another 240mm radiator that is full copper, at or under 27mm thick (the absolute limit for easy fitment), with higher FPI. Other 240mm full copper rads on the market that are thicker and higher FPI are either *too* thick (30mm) or too wide and long to fit, and higher FPI rads with just the right thickness are aluminium, not full copper.
The TX240 is a 22fpi copper radiator. According to @fabio's testing, is also about 1-2 degrees cooler.

Also using another fan with the NH-A12x25 in push/pull won't increase cooling much, if at all.
I tend to use the lower FPI radiators due to their ability to scale better with low fan RPM.
IMO the TX240 would only be good, if you plan to use 2 12x15 fans for clearance reasons.
Otherwise the SE 240 Classic would be my preferred choice with one 12x15 and one 12x25.
This is true, a negligible difference. But I think it's still possible to fit 1x 15mm and 1x 25mm fan with the TX240, but you'd have to use short bracket and can only attach the radiator with 2 screws.
 
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TSOF

Caliper Novice
Jun 20, 2020
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So I'm clear on this: can the tx240 be mounted with 1x15mm and 1x25mm underneath it (radiator closest to top panel)?

And if so, is it just tight, or does it actually foul on the top panel? If it fouls, do you reckon this could be modified in anyway to work?

Thanks.
 

element72

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Oct 7, 2018
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So I'm clear on this: can the tx240 be mounted with 1x15mm and 1x25mm underneath it (radiator closest to top panel)?

And if so, is it just tight, or does it actually foul on the top panel? If it fouls, do you reckon this could be modified in anyway to work?

Thanks.
This the setup most people should be doing. Yes.

One side note: I'm not sure how you can do 2x15mm and a 25mm with tx250. Someone just mentioned this was possible. I never heard of that. Probably will cause a 3mm bulge at the top. I would like to see a pic of that.
 
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Chaca

Chassis Packer
Mar 23, 2020
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I remember this being posted before: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1597148545.html

Just one question. Will the 24 V rating be an issue for PC use? Unsure if it needs 24 volts or can handle up to 24 volts... As far as I know a regular PC power switch uses 5 volts. Not an electrician so sorry if this is a stupid question 😅
 

DrHudacris

Master of Cramming
Jul 20, 2019
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So I'm clear on this: can the tx240 be mounted with 1x15mm and 1x25mm underneath it (radiator closest to top panel)?

And if so, is it just tight, or does it actually foul on the top panel? If it fouls, do you reckon this could be modified in anyway to work?

Thanks.
There are these aligning rails on the top panel that might cause issues. Honestly not sure the best solution to get around this... But this is the only hurdle. Maybe hammering the radiator shroud down a bit?

This the setup most people should be doing. Yes.

One side note: I'm not sure how you can do 2x15mm and a 25mm with tx250. Someone just mentioned this was possible. I never heard of that. Probably will cause a 3mm bulge at the top. I would like to see a pic of that.
Yeah I'm the guy!
 

gallahant

Cable Smoosher
Aug 9, 2018
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Any chance shipping to other countries? I really want this case but my country is not on the list. (Cyprus)
 

stanleyguan

Minimal Tinkerer
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Jun 18, 2020
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Anybody crazy enough to think of cramming this rad in? Looks like it's 40mm wide (i.e. 2 slots). With 3-slot config and a watercooled GPU, it might *just* fit in between the GPU waterblock and the panel? It might be possible to have 3 40mm fans too.

It might not make a groundbreaking difference to thermals. Just thinking about what's possible.
 

DrHudacris

Master of Cramming
Jul 20, 2019
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Anybody crazy enough to think of cramming this rad in? Looks like it's 40mm wide (i.e. 2 slots). With 3-slot config and a watercooled GPU, it might *just* fit in between the GPU waterblock and the panel? It might be possible to have 3 40mm fans too.

It might not make a groundbreaking difference to thermals. Just thinking about what's possible.
I think with creativity (and maybe a 3d printer) you can fit it. You'll have to go with 6mm ID tubes, if I'm reading the specs right.
 
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thelaughingman

Airflow Optimizer
Jul 14, 2018
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@DrHudacris that stock cables look close to touch the 25mm fan! may I ask what is the actual clearance do you have there? do you think low profile connector / slim cables can give more clearance? Asking to see if there's 7mm to gain for my EK AIO 240 hahaha
 

Ashenfall

Caliper Novice
Jun 13, 2020
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The TX240 is a 22fpi copper radiator. According to @fabio's testing, is also about 1-2 degrees cooler.
@ManaNeko had concerns about the LT240 rad not being very thick so my answer was specifically targeted at that. the TX240 is thinner than the LT240 so I didn't see a need to mention it

1-2 degrees is kind of negligible. Could even be within error margins of the test equipment
 

DrHudacris

Master of Cramming
Jul 20, 2019
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@ManaNeko had concerns about the LT240 rad not being very thick so my answer was specifically targeted at that. the TX240 is thinner than the LT240 so I didn't see a need to mention it

1-2 degrees is kind of negligible. Could even be within error margins of the test equipment
You wondered if there was a 240mm radiator "at or under 27mm, full copper, with higher FPI" I don't see how my mentioning the TX was unnecessary.