Production Densium 4L case w\Wood Front panel.

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Store is LIVE! www.densium.net

The Densium 4, and some extra unnanounced products are now up on our webstore!
Everything you need to know is on our website, take a look.

January 17th (2022) Update:

Hello all!

Well, i did not expect this...


As some of you may have seen, I lowered the goal from 60 units to 50 units, which then placed us at 48% funded.
I was hoping this would make it easier for people to commit.
I then made a little more informative website, and took some better photos to go along with it.
As a "cherry on top" i offered Free shipping for 48 hours, to hopefully boost sales a bit.

Well it sure did - We plowed our way from 48% to 88% in just 2 days, so i made a decision.

Since we did so incredibly well, and we only have a few units left to go, I don't see any point in letting you guys wait any longer!
Therefore I've decided to cover the rest of the cost myself, and order production! Well, i still haven't recieved the prototype for the much improved front panel design, so I'll have to approve this design first! I'll recieve this in about a week or so.

Thanks to everyone who ordered! I'm super excited, and i hope you are too! And a special thanks to everyone who helped me get the word around and share with friends and family.

Well, I'm ordering more units than we've sold - And there is nothing stopping me from ordering more, so keep spreading the word!

Moving forward:

Until now, I've not said anything about production times, but to not leave you guys completely in the dark, I'll inquire the manufacturer about it, and update this post in a few days regarding this (Keep in mind: Chinese new year is around the corner, and the factory will have a 2 week holiday, starting at the end of january)

For those of you who wants the extended version - I'll ask my manufacturer to produce this along with the Densium 4, since the manufacturing process is essentially identical - assuming the prototype will be approved.

Again, a big thanks to everyone who've ordered.

As always, all questions are welcome here!

Regards,
Audun


January 12th (2022) update:

Hello guys, update from manufacturer.

Our new dark walnut panel is now awaiting surface finish, after which it will be immediately shipped to me.
The 220mm version prototype production line has been started, and will be sent to me around next week.

If anyone has been on the website lately, maybe you've noticed that I've added some new photos for the D4.
I'm currently working daily to make the website a little more "digestable" for new people, hoping this will help sales better for my next promo. Expect to see a new product page, and possibly also a new homepage in the coming days.

For my next promo i will make also make a great offer, so I'll expect to get a little further with my funding goal.

Thanks for being so patient guys, you're the best!


January 7th (2022) update:

Hello,

I haven't updated the post for a week so i thought i should give you a status update and plan moving forward.

About a week ago i placed an order for a new, much improved front panel design (mounting solution, aesthetically same.)
It will also be made out of Dark Walnut, a much darker variant of the walnut front panel.

Along with this i also placed an order for a extended version, specifically the 220mm gpu support version, after a post on r/SFFPC the majority of feedback wanted this version more than the 200mm version.

Meanwhile I'll work on the website, i recently bought some extra photo equipment that'll help me out immensly - Therefore I'll take some better, more demonstrative and illustrative photos, and make a more informative website. I'll also make an assembly video that'll act as an 'user manual.' Thought behind this is to run a new 'promo' campaign, and hopefully better media and information will generate more sales. Hopefully - if this campaign goes well, I'm able to order production. I am also comfortable with covering a part of the cost myself, so we don't need to wait for exactly 100%, might even bring the goal down, to hopefully make commitment easier for potential new customers.


While i work on the website, I'll also spend some time reaching out to influencers, youtubers, reviewers etc. If you have any suggestions, please reply to this thread! :)
Alternatively you can ask your favorite reviewers if they want to review the case! Just tell them to E-mail me at contact@densium.net. NO reviewer is too small! Once we have some stock I will not be shy handing out free samples to reviewers!

I'll be available every day to answer questions, do not hesitate to ask - No question is too stupid!!

December 30th (2021) update:

I need your opinion! Which one of the 2 extended versions below would you be most interested in and why? Reply to this thread with your answer [More info below picture]

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Due to requests from people wanting to fit some 'longer' hardware in the Densium 4, I am considering making an extended version. The numbers above each case is referring to their internal lenght, and also translates directly into GPU lenght supported. The extended version will be identical to the orignal Densium 4, only the length differs.

Only one of the extended versions will be made.


The original Densium 4 [180mm]Densium 4+ [200mm]Densium 4++ [220mm]
Pros
  • Smallest and most portable.
  • Biggest Height to Depth ratio, for that 'vertical' look.
  • Fits GEEEK modular flex-atx PSU (L-Version)
  • Fits Asus dual mini and EVGA XC Graphics cards.
  • Easier cable routing
  • Fits more SSD's if you have an ITX-GPU
  • Fits all GEEEK modular Flex-ATX PSU
  • Easier cable routing.
  • Likely fits rumored new HDPlex PSU.
  • Fits even longer GPU/more SSD
Cons
  • Doesn't fit GEEEK modular PSU's
  • Not many GPU options
  • Only room for 1 SSD (non M.2)
  • Most challenging cable routing
  • Increased size and footprint
  • Increased size and footprint
Dimensions and volume220x190x98mm, 4L220x~210x98mm ~4.5L220x~230x98mm ~5L



December 25th (2021) update:

Merry Christmas to all!

Our 72h promo went very well, and I have some good news!
We did get 20 pre-orders for the Densium 4, but that's not the best part!
Due to us getting 20 sales in ~72h, our manufacturer has agreed to follow through with production of a smaller Quantity.
This means we're able to cut our funding goal almost IN HALF, as a result of a lowered funding goal, we have officially plowed through 1/3 of our new goal! [In 72 hours!!] It's looking bright!


Our plan moving forward is to create a better, more informatory and more convincing product page - Then combine this with a new campaign in early-mid January. Then maybe, Just maybe - we're able to reach our goal!

A giant thanks to everyone who've ordered!

Pre-Launch Content below:


[AR Links at the bottom of the post]
Hello Enthusiasts!

An introduction: We are Densium, and we'll attempt to open a new store, made by- and for SFFPC Enthusiasts.
We are not here to talk about ourself, but our first project - You can read more about us at Densium.net.

Because we've been learning along the way, we have not been confident enough to share our project with the community before now.
We wanted to keep the uncertainty regarding waiting times, prototyping and launch to a minimum, to spare potential buyers of staying up at night waiting for an update.
(And trust us, you would have been waiting for a long time by now)

We now have our first prototype on hand, but we have another prototype with improved design being quoted at the time of posting.



Case Specs (V1)
  • 4 liters in volume
  • Height 222mm
  • Width 98mm
  • Depth 183mm
  • 1.2mm powdercoated steel
  • 5mm waxed Rosewood front panel.
  • Acetal (PCIe bracket mount, and glued to front panel for screwing into front panel.)
  • White illuminated powerbutton.
Hardware Compatibility:
  • 39mm CPU Cooler height
  • ITX GPU (175mm)
  • Flex-ATX power supply (Mounted below motherboard)
  • 2.5inch 7mm thick SSD will fit snuggly between side panel and PSU on CPU side.
  • 185mm ADT-Link riser cable.
  • Ram Clearance approx. 45mm
  • ITX Motherboards only.
Update December 1st 2021


We now have now recieved our second protoype. This time we made sure to order a white unit, to see if our manufacturer could handle it well. Good news, they look amazing.

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Here are some pictures with components:

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VIEW IN AR: White/Rosewood Black/Walnut
PROTIP: Open on your phone to view it on your desk :p
 

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This might be a stretch but is there a way to add mounting if the motherboard is flipped facing the GPU? That might give it an edge over other cases like this that offer something for APUs and a bit more cooler height in a gpuless build. I'm thinking about next gen Ryzen apu and how there's not a case like that with this flexibility.
 
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This might be a stretch but is there a way to add mounting if the motherboard is flipped facing the GPU? That might give it an edge over other cases like this that offer something for APUs and a bit more cooler height in a gpuless build. I'm thinking about next gen Ryzen apu and how there's not a case like that with this flexibility.
This idea is actually a very interesting idea!

I think it might be possible, but you would then have to substitude the side panel for another panel with standoffs for the motherboard. I will try it out in Solidworks and update you about it.
 

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This idea is actually a very interesting idea!

I think it might be possible, but you would then have to substitude the side panel for another panel with standoffs for the motherboard. I will try it out in Solidworks and update you about it.
Yeah that's probably the more straight forward solution. I didn't know how the internals were mount so wasn't entirely sure what would be possible. I'm sure some people have modded velka 3s or K39s to do something similar.
 

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Yeah that's probably the more straight forward solution. I didn't know how the internals were mount so wasn't entirely sure what would be possible. I'm sure some people have modded velka 3s or K39s to do something similar.
After tinkering a little bit in solidworks i have found that this is not possible with current design, since the motherboard sticks out about 13.5mm below the IO cutout. When you flip the motherboard, this part is facing the opposite way, and i have not accomodated for this. There are some other minor problems, but it might work with a DC-ATX power supply.
 

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Yeah that's probably the more straight forward solution. I didn't know how the internals were mount so wasn't entirely sure what would be possible. I'm sure some people have modded velka 3s or K39s to do something similar.
Hello again,

i actually found a cheap and reasonable solution. I can mount the motherboard correctly with a side panel substitute, but flex-atx power supply would not be compatible with this layout.

However, we are working closely together with Pico-box and also with a mean-well certified distributor, so we can offer very reasonable DC-ATX solutions, both with and without external brick.

We will place an order for pieces needed to achieve this, and update the thread once we have pieces on hand.
 
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Since the design is similar to the Velka, perhaps there is a small tweak you could do to make it stand out? Currently, the velka 3 can not fit the hdplex ac-dc and dc-dc unit. So only powersupply option is a loud flex atx psu or a hdplex dc-dc with a huge 330 watt power brick.
 
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Since the design is similar to the Velka, perhaps there is a small tweak you could do to make it stand out? Currently, the velka 3 can not fit the hdplex ac-dc and dc-dc unit. So only powersupply option is a loud flex atx psu or a hdplex dc-dc with a huge 330 watt power brick.
Yes, that might be an option. We are also developing an extended version of the case, for those who have the EVGA 3060 Ti XC and Asus Dual Mini 3060 Ti. This solution might be a little more viable in this solution.
 
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Hello again,

i actually found a cheap and reasonable solution. I can mount the motherboard correctly with a side panel substitute, but flex-atx power supply would not be compatible with this layout.

However, we are working closely together with Pico-box and also with a mean-well certified distributor, so we can offer very reasonable DC-ATX solutions, both with and without external brick.

We will place an order for pieces needed to achieve this, and update the thread once we have pieces on hand.
I see, the PCIE end up hitting the flex. I also doesn't look like there's enough space if the flex was mounted on the other side of the case. I'd only do it if it makes sense as an option and cost of that flexibility. Might not make sense in the long run.
 

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I see, the PCIE end up hitting the flex. I also doesn't look like there's enough space if the flex was mounted on the other side of the case. I'd only do it if it makes sense as an option and cost of that flexibility. Might not make sense in the long run.
I actually found a very reasonable and cost effective solution. It would have to be a add-on kit, since only a small portion of end users is going to need it.

Since many people already own a riser cable compatible with this case, i was considering selling riser cables separately. This is going to make way more sense now, so people can either choose if they want the ‘apu kit’ or riser together with their case. This way no one has to pay for something they dont really want.

As mentioned before, this would have to be together with a mean-well/pico-box (or hdplex)combo, which we can offer in our store for very reasonable prices as well.

I would argue this is actually a favorable solution because high quality flex psu (like enp7660b) are expensive and very overkill. - and cheap ones are notoriously noisy. With mean-well you can get 200w of passive cooling, which should be enough to power any APU build.
 

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I actually found a very reasonable and cost effective solution. It would have to be a add-on kit, since only a small portion of end users is going to need it.

Since many people already own a riser cable compatible with this case, i was considering selling riser cables separately. This is going to make way more sense now, so people can either choose if they want the ‘apu kit’ or riser together with their case. This way no one has to pay for something they dont really want.

As mentioned before, this would have to be together with a mean-well/pico-box (or hdplex)combo, which we can offer in our store for very reasonable prices as well.

I would argue this is actually a favorable solution because high quality flex psu (like enp7660b) are expensive and very overkill. - and cheap ones are notoriously noisy. With mean-well you can get 200w of passive cooling, which should be enough to power any APU build.
Yeah, meanwel/pico for 200ish watt apu builds, hdplex 400 watt for small gpu + cpu builds.

Also, maybe something to keep in mind for the gpu-side that a lot of small cases (velka, k39, metalfish s3, loli, etc etc) overlook: generally the small itx gpu cards (especially the single fan models and most of the double fan models) have a heatsink with fins running along the lenght of the card: so it exhaust hot air at the back where the hdmi/dp ports are, but it also exhausts hot air in the front. A lot of small cases have a closed off front panel and just enough room to fit a gpu, so that hot air has nowhere to go. Perhaps allow for some exhaust to escape through the front with a mesh/holes?
 

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Yeah, meanwel/pico for 200ish watt apu builds, hdplex 400 watt for small gpu + cpu builds.

Also, maybe something to keep in mind for the gpu-side that a lot of small cases (velka, k39, metalfish s3, loli, etc etc) overlook: generally the small itx gpu cards (especially the single fan models and most of the double fan models) have a heatsink with fins running along the lenght of the card: so it exhaust hot air at the back where the hdmi/dp ports are, but it also exhausts hot air in the front. A lot of small cases have a closed off front panel and just enough room to fit a gpu, so that hot air has nowhere to go. Perhaps allow for some exhaust to escape through the front with a mesh/holes?
Thanks for suggestion, but i think we’re going to make a pass on this to preserve the aesthetics of the front panel. However modding this kind of thing should not be that hard :)
 

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Love the idea, but honestly, if it is cheaper than the velka 3, I'll take your entire stock. I love the idea of the wooden front panel. Maybe you could make it so that you could design a custom front panel and swap it out(such as let's say I want to CNC one which offers more airflow for the case)
 

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Yeh, I'm interested as well, though still hoping for a second slightly larger version with hdplex support :-)
 

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Love the idea, but honestly, if it is cheaper than the velka 3, I'll take your entire stock. I love the idea of the wooden front panel. Maybe you could make it so that you could design a custom front panel and swap it out(such as let's say I want to CNC one which offers more airflow for the case)
Glad to hear you're interested. For your delight i can announce that the case will be considerably cheaper, especially for those who pre-order. Also we will offer much cheaper worldwide shipping.

Regarding the custom front panels; The 'fastening' brackets behind the front panel are detachable, so it would be able to cnc something custom, although the brackets would possible a little obstructive, at least aesthetically.

Yeh, I'm interested as well, though still hoping for a second slightly larger version with hdplex support :-)
Although we have not yet implemented features to mount a HDPlex PSU, theres possibilities to have an add-on kit which supports this, would not be hard, nor very expensive. Sadly, during our establishment phase, we can't afford too many 'bits and pieces' together with our cases. Our unit cost is already high because we can't yet risk to purchase a large order quantity - Therefore we have to prioritize keeping down the unit cost enough to keep the prices appealing - Even though it breaks our heart.

Hopefully we can offer more of these 'extras' in the future, when we gain more trust and customers.

We can still make some last minute changes to the design, so we can possibly add some screw holes so you can mount your hdplex with the m2.5 screw holes on the underside, although this would hardly count as 'full-support.' If you own a 3D printer i would happily design some files for you that you can print within a few hours, to further increase support for your hdplex.
 
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Glad to hear you're interested. For your delight i can announce that the case will be considerably cheaper, especially for those who pre-order. Also we will offer much cheaper worldwide shipping.

Regarding the custom front panels; The 'fastening' brackets behind the front panel are detachable, so it would be able to cnc something custom, although the brackets would possible a little obstructive, at least aesthetically.


Although we have not yet implemented features to mount a HDPlex PSU, theres possibilities to have an add-on kit which supports this, would not be hard, nor very expensive. Sadly, during our establishment phase, we can't afford too many 'bits and pieces' together with our cases. Our unit cost is already high because we can't yet risk to purchase a large order quantity - Therefore we have to prioritize keeping down the unit cost enough to keep the prices appealing - Even though it breaks our heart.

Hopefully we can offer more of these 'extras' in the future, when we gain more trust and customers.

We can still make some last minute changes to the design, so we can possibly add some screw holes so you can mount your hdplex with the m2.5 screw holes on the underside, although this would hardly count as 'full-support.' If you own a 3D printer i would happily design some files for you that you can print within a few hours, to further increase support for your hdplex.
I like the way you offer help and possible solutions, that's a plus in my book. The problem is more to do with the HDplex ac-dc unit measuring 180 mm in lenght (with a few extra mm's for bending the wires) so it just wont fight lenghtwise, though the dc-dc part will and with a power brick that is a workable solution. Screw holes in the bottem to screw it in is a nice addition, but for that part a good piece of double sided tape works just as well. I believe velka at one point had models with screw holes for it in their velka 3 line up but then removed it again or something.

Besides, with so many flex-atx cases out there nowadays, perhaps in a year or two some smaller less noisy options will be available :)
 

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I like the way you offer help and possible solutions, that's a plus in my book. The problem is more to do with the HDplex ac-dc unit measuring 180 mm in lenght (with a few extra mm's for bending the wires) so it just wont fight lenghtwise, though the dc-dc part will and with a power brick that is a workable solution. Screw holes in the bottem to screw it in is a nice addition, but for that part a good piece of double sided tape works just as well. I believe velka at one point had models with screw holes for it in their velka 3 line up but then removed it again or something.

Besides, with so many flex-atx cases out there nowadays, perhaps in a year or two some smaller less noisy options will be available :)
Someone get this man another case that can house the HDPlex 400w power supply combo. He is dying.