DAN C4-SFX

Khaledious

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Apr 28, 2019
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whoever goes to production first, I just want AIO in SFF without having to hack up a beautiful case.
Same, I just want to be able to see the parts I paid 1000s for without also cooking them, or under-voting etc. Just want a clean TG SFF system, with regular boost clocks (Don't need an OC) , nothing fills that market gap atm, except maybe the ghost, but I hate the top hats.
 

AMv8-1day

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Feb 13, 2017
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Almost guarantee the Sidearmd T1 will be out first. That said, both are great looking cases and I hope both make it out soon.
I think I like the internal strength of design of the Sidearmd T1 more (possibly better for travel or rugged environments?), but the exterior looks of the C4-SFX, especially with the glass panel, are gorgeous.
Ultimately it'll come down to availability and personal preference for most. Pricing may make it interesting as well, but frankly I don't want to see a race to the bottom in this space. Both creators deserve to be paid appropriately for their hard work and I think that many of the creators here would rather abandon a project than be forced to cut corners for the sake of breaking even on their design.
Maybe when the tariff wars (worst dystopian future Sci-Fi book series ever) are resolved, there will be more opportunity for profit at small scale.
 
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AMv8-1day

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nothing fills that market gap atm, except maybe the ghost, but I hate the top hats.
Right!?!
I don't get it! Why is everyone okay with this weird, hackish, bolt on design?
I get that it's a little cheaper, and still pretty small, but as far as I'm concerned, it's completely devoid of character and the bolt-on top hats seem cheap and hacky.
 

Khaledious

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Right!?!
I don't get it! Why is everyone okay with this weird, hackish, bolt on design?
I get that it's a little cheaper, and still pretty small, but as far as I'm concerned, it's completely devoid of character and the bolt-on top hats seem cheap and hacky.
Agreed, I get they were trying to go for versatility, but it gives it a very DIY look.

I agree Dan's design is more aesthetically pleasing and I do appreciate him as a designer, But the reality is whom ever releases first will fill in that gap first and without any ETAs or updates on the C4 it's hard to make a decision. If I knew for sure that case "A" comes out in 2 weeks, and case "B" comes out in 1.5 months, then my preference would definitely outweigh the wait time, but unfortunately this isn't the case. And like you said even if they were both available at the same time, it wouldn't be an easy choice, they are both great in their own way. So the fact that they aren't available or at least announced within a similar time frame makes which ever one comes out first the winner by default.

My opinion mostly comes from the fact that I sold my system in anticipation of the Ryzen 3000 CPUs and am looking to build a system ASAP. Personally I'll just grab which ever case is available at the time, I may even just go for the NCase if neither are available within a reasonable time frame. I'm happy to support Dan or w360 alike, they both seem like great people, and i really appreciate their hard work.
 

schn1tt3r

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Sep 24, 2018
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Did you guys know about the
Sidearmd T1
I just found out about it and it looks promising as hell!
Yes, someone here mentioned that case to me and it does look great. OP and page 94 C4 looks better though. Glad Sidearm guy decided to make single color an option as that will make it look good. More importantly, sidearm thread isn't stuck in limbo like this one.

EDIT: and as for the Ghost S1, yeah that was what I was going to buy even though top hat looks ugly (was gonna put it on the bottom even if worse temps), but then they decided to up their price by over 50 euro with no explanation as to why? No thanks, don't like being taken advantage of just because there are no other options right now.
 
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Khaledious

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Apr 28, 2019
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Yes, someone here mentioned that case to me and it does look great. OP and page 94 C4 looks better though. Glad Sidearm guy decided to make single color an option as that will make it look good. More importantly, sidearm thread isn't stuck in limbo like this one.

EDIT: and as for the Ghost S1, yeah that was what I was going to buy even though top hat looks ugly (was gonna put it on the bottom even if worse temps), but then they decided to up their price by over 50 euro with no explanation as to why? No thanks, don't like being taken advantage of just because there are no other options right now.
Yep, lack of competition isnt healthy :(
 

Aviswa

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May 24, 2019
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Yes, someone here mentioned that case to me and it does look great. OP and page 94 C4 looks better though. Glad Sidearm guy decided to make single color an option as that will make it look good. More importantly, sidearm thread isn't stuck in limbo like this one.

EDIT: and as for the Ghost S1, yeah that was what I was going to buy even though top hat looks ugly (was gonna put it on the bottom even if worse temps), but then they decided to up their price by over 50 euro with no explanation as to why? No thanks, don't like being taken advantage of just because there are no other options right now.
Where did you see that sidearmd will have the single color option? If that’s true, that would be awesome, but was that ever confirmed?
 

schn1tt3r

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Sep 24, 2018
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Where did you see that sidearmd will have the single color option? If that’s true, that would be awesome, but was that ever confirmed?
Color option hasn't been finalized, but on his thread he mentions he is open to having a few color options

 

FunkEngine

Chassis Packer
Mar 4, 2019
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So, based on previous designs, what are the chances of having room for a pump for a custom loop? A monoblock on x570 would be nice to eliminate the chipset fan.
 

schn1tt3r

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Sep 24, 2018
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So, based on previous designs, what are the chances of having room for a pump for a custom loop? A monoblock on x570 would be nice to eliminate the chipset fan.
Where there is a will, there usually is a way... however, seems there is no will left for this project to continue. It's been over a month since last update.
 

FunkEngine

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Mar 4, 2019
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Where there is a will, there usually is a way... however, seems there is no will left for this project to continue. It's been over a month since last update.
True. And its actually been like 2 since we got the renders coming soon update. I don't think it would take 2 months to do a render, but hey I'm hardly an expert. So I'm hoping that the comment about him deciding himself on the layout is indicative of him taking back control of the project and that we might just see a kickstarter or something as our next update. That said, a quick "hey still alive" post here and there would be nice.

Regardless of how the design turns out, I just want to know what its going to be so that I can decide to wait for production or to move on.
 
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wykydtronik

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True. And its actually been like 2 since we got the renders coming soon update. I don't think it would take 2 months to do a render, but hey I'm hardly an expert. So I'm hoping that the comment about him deciding himself on the layout is indicative of him taking back control of the project and that we might just see a kickstarter or something as our next update. That said, a quick "hey still alive" post here and there would be nice.

Regardless of how the design turns out, I just want to know what its going to be so that I can decide to wait for production or to move on.
A4 revision, full time job, new born, all the bickering that went on in this thread... I'm sure Dan has his plate full.
 

arkitec

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Apr 27, 2019
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Dear Dan,

This question may already came up but was wondering if this C4 case allow back to back layout?
I meant same orientation as A4? Back of MOBO and GPU are facing each other.
Thank you,
 

Bonusround

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Jun 26, 2018
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I suspect it's difficult to be in Dan's shoes. How does one proceed when the <10L competition is talking up an adjustable, sandwiched, CNC'd case for release this year at US $200? Focusing on the A4 makes sense, especially if there's demand. Unless the C4 can offer meaningful improvement over other efforts then perhaps it's best to focus on the ~7L niche.
 

NIIV3X

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Jun 15, 2018
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I suspect it's difficult to be in Dan's shoes. How does one proceed when the <10L competition is talking up an adjustable, sandwiched, CNC'd case for release this year at US $200? Focusing on the A4 makes sense, especially if there's demand. Unless the C4 can offer meaningful improvement over other efforts then perhaps it's best to focus on the ~7L niche.
What brings me back personally and probably others too is the simplistic yet elegant design combined with the small itx form factor on top of a choosable hardware layout. Something I have yet to find elsewhere.
 

schn1tt3r

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Sep 24, 2018
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I suspect it's difficult to be in Dan's shoes. How does one proceed when the <10L competition is talking up an adjustable, sandwiched, CNC'd case for release this year at US $200? Focusing on the A4 makes sense, especially if there's demand. Unless the C4 can offer meaningful improvement over other efforts then perhaps it's best to focus on the ~7L niche.
I see your point, but I'd get Dan's C4 on page 94 or page 1 just because it looks better. I don't care a little increase in size, I just really really like how the C4 looks. I'm sure I am not the only one.