Prebuilt Any ASRock JUPITER X300 owners?

Eugen

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Got a couple of questions.
1. So a 35W APU is impossible to find, can I fine-tune a 65W APU (like 5600G) via bios settings to fit the 35W restrictions?
2. How loud/hot system is with 65W apu?

Aim is tiny low-power system. Dead silent in idle. Barely audible under light load.
 

Bean Nuts

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I recommend watching ETA Primes Youtube video. He took a 5700g and stuffed it in the asrock Jupiter x300 and got pretty good results.
If you bought a 5600g and under-volted it, you might be able achieve nearly a dead silent computer
 

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I would recommend the 5600g on both the jupiter or deskmini version. The igpu is virtually the same and thermal issues prevent the 5700g from being fully utilized on multithreaded workloads (other than very short bursts before the throttling kicks in).

For tuning you have about 3 choices, (A) Lower bios tdp setting (alternately can also just adjust the pbo tdc, I think that's the same result), or (B) disable cores or SMT, or (C) undervolt with a manual clock (no curve offset sorry).

You can experiment by lowering SOC voltage as well which would reduce the power draw of the igpu.
 
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Thanx for replies.
I watched ETA Primes, results aren't good for me - too hot, too noisy.
But bios setting in that videos looks promising for undervolting.

And one more question - custom fan curve - is it possible? FanControl (or SpeedFan) support?
 
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The bios supports a 5 point curve and Speedfan is supported (go to advanced settings on the controller, set Manual control)



To get lowest noise results I would disable 2 cores, disable SMT, set manual clock and undervolt until the temps are good enough. This wouldn't hurt desktop or gaming performance much.
 
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Since i'm interested if this would work or not, I configured a power sipper x300 build using a 5700g on the Deskmini as follows to simulate a "quiet" Jupiter x300:

-Parked 5 cores, 3 cores enabled (5600g = Park 3 cores, 3 enabled)
-Disable SMT (Hyperthreading)
-Undervolt to 1.05v @ 3.8ghz manual clock
-GPU clock unchanged @ 2ghz

This is using the Noctua l9a (NFa9x14) so keep in mind the cooling capacity is going to be better than the Jupiter.

Result #1 (CPU workload)
21.9w Package power in Cinebench with performance similar to 1165g7 Tiger Lake laptop. Room to enable another core or two, or SMT.

About 60% fan speed of the NFa9x14 and temps are under 50c, it would be hotter on the Jupiter but it's hard to say by exactly how much but it looks promising.

Result #2 (Gaming result - Witcher 3 720p High):
3 Cores @ 3.8ghz 1.05v
36w GPU + 9W CPU (3 cores)= 45w on sensors


At 45 watts, this wouldn't be as quiet, but it still should be possible on the Jupiter without 100% fan speed. Because I have noticed the GPU has better heat dissipation on the Zen3 die, it doesn't get hotspots as bad as the the CPU cores. So even though the package power draw is almost double, the hotspot temps won't be as bad as a CPU benchmark.


Now the above compared to the baseline (my x300 config) to test for lost performance.
8 Cores, 4.4ghz @ 1.3v manual locked
44W GPU + 17w CPU = 61w (Note: GPU wattage may be higher because SOC amperage increased)



Same fps! There is no perceptible difference in gaming results by dropping to 3 undervolted and underclocked cores, at least in this game since the CPU utilization isn't very high (60%). Cyberpunk was at 90% util so maybe some games would benefit from a bit higher clock speed, or by enabling 4 cores.

Because of my memory configuration I could not test an undervolted SOC, it was at relatively high 1.15v in both tests.

Actual gaming results would be lower than 45 watts when using less SOC voltage. Up to 5 watts less on iGpu if using 900mv SOC.
 
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Eugen

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Since i'm interested if this would work or not, I configured a power sipper x300 build using a 5700g on the Deskmini as follows to simulate a "quiet" Jupiter x300

This is awesome!
Thank you for help.
 

Eugen

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So, a small report on jupiter x300 and ryzen 5600G.
I didn't succeed.
Undervolt, underclock, and CoreBoost off helped lower the temperature and fan speed.
Disabling SMT wasn't an option, because s3 mode is used.
But constant freezes with the shutdown of the video driver put an end to this idea. It worked stably at the default settings, but high temperatures and fan speeds are unacceptable to me.

4650ge appeared ib stock, so I replaced the processor. The problem is solved.
CoreBoost off, voltage in nominal, memory overclocked to 3800.
The system is stable, the noise is moderate (fan curve is up to 3000 rpm at 75°C).
Runs great for browsing and light gaming!
Wattmeter reports 15w in idle, 55-65w while gaming.
Maybe someone will be interested. Next time I'll prefer Deskmini for sure.